[Followed by: M/M's COMMENTS ON JOHN TODDDO 948August 1980]

—By John Todd—Ex-Grand Druid Witch, now converted Christian.

—Lectures given at a Bible Baptist church, Elkton, Md., USA, Fall 1978.

(These taped lectures were transcribed by Miriam of Andrew in the U.S. just as they were given there. We cannot confirm their authenticity nor accuracy as to the circumstances nor names described, but they are close enough to some truths we already know & have proclaimed for years to be very convincing!—See for yourself!—D.)

ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SAY BEFORE I GET STARTED, it never seems to fail that when I'm done a few of my brothers & sisters in the Lord have fear in their hearts. There is no reason to have fear in your heart. It seems like every time we talk about the Enemy, Christians become afraid rather than stirred up & fighting mad! So I just ask that if you have this fear in your hearts when this is over, that you just simply get in your prayer chamber or up front or someplace alone with the Lord & discuss the matter with Him.

THERE IS NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF WHEN IT COMES TO THE DEVIL; HE WAS DEFEATED 2,000 YEARS AGO! And that's why I'm here; he was defeated 2,000 years ago! I think the thing that made me the most mad when I got saved was that I'd served somebody since I was a child, for over 20 years, that was defeated over 2,000 years ago! And I guess the only reason why I served him was that I didn't realize who he was until I got saved, it took that enlightenment.

AS BROTHER BERRY PREACHED THIS MORNING ON THE DEVIL BLINDING GOD'S PEOPLE'S EYES & THE WORLD'S EYES‚ take it for a fact, he can do it! For some 20 years I served him as a priest & as a high priest, & later as a Grand Druid & had many thousands of people serving him under me, & never once did I even realize who I was serving.

THERE WERE MANY THINGS THAT I LEARNED IN WITCHCRAFT, I'm not going to tell you what they were‚ but there were many things that I learned & many things that I taught as a standard teaching in Witchcraft. As you go through apprenticeship or as you go through what we call the "Outer Court," you are told to do things & you don't ask why you do them. If you do ask why do them, they tell you that you're being naughty & that you shouldn't ask, mainly because they don't know!

I NEVER DID KNOW WHY I WAS DOING THE THINGS I WAS DOING OR WHY I WAS TEACHING THE THINGS I WAS TEACHING. They worked‚ so we did them. After I got saved, it took salvation for me to find out why they worked. And I guess after knowing that, there is no way you can go back to what you came out of. Very quickly tonight—well, I can't be really quickly, but I'll try—I want to give my testimony, & then I want to turn it over for questions & answers.

I'VE LEARNED THE HARD WAY‚ AFTER FIVE YEARS‚ & IT'S NORMAL FOR ME TO SAY THE THINGS THAT I SAY, but it's astounding for you to listen to them. And I realize that when the meetings are over that many things I say are strange to Christians. Most of you grew up in Christian homes, or even if you were in the World, you were not very close to what I was into, so when I say things‚ to me they are everyday things.

I GUESS THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SUCH A SUCCESSFUL MINISTRY WITH THE PEOPLE IN DRUGS & THE PEOPLE IN THE OCCULT, because they tried to tell Christians for years the things they'd been into & the things they've experienced, & they look at them like they're crazy. Then I come along & I say, "Oh! Oh, sure I'll listen to you, I've been there!" I know the same things, & I'll sit there & I'll listen & they find it very outstanding that I believe in them, because I've experienced them too.

SO I DON'T GASP AT SOMEBODY WHEN THEY TELL ME THEY'VE SEEN DEMONS or floated things through the air or received answers on Ouija boards or made people do their own will by spells‚ because I was there & I know it's so, but at the same time I know how weak it is compared to what I have now.

WE WENT TO ST. PAUL WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THEIR CONVENTION THIS YEAR, which they called off. They're having it right now in Washington‚ D.C., this is the last night of it, & it was in all the front pages of the newspapers down there. Christians throughout the United States say, "You don't really expect us to believe that witches are that organized!"—No, they've just got Senators & Congressmen & top witches down there all in one convention, they're not organized, not at all!

BUT ANYWAY‚ WE WERE THERE, & MANY WITCHES CAME UP TO ME & ASKED ME WHY I WOULD BECOME A CHRISTIAN. See, witches have the opinion that Christians are either the most evil thing that ever lived or they're the most foolish people that ever lived. They wanted to know why I would become a Christian. I said, "Because I'm more powerful now than I was when I was a witch!"—That's not the real reason, but I said it in words they would understand. And they couldn't grasp that. I know how they feel.

WHEN I WAS IN WITCHCRAFT I NEVER CONSIDERED CHRISTIANITY UNTIL THE NIGHT I GOT SAVED. I never once considered it was an answer, I never considered that Jesus was an answer & thought that the things in the Christian church were foolish‚ at the least, & dangerous at the most—& I guess they are dangerous to Witchcraft. But to explain what I'm talking about very quickly:

I COME FROM A FAMILY CALLED THE COLLINS. Some of them on this side of the Atlantic Ocean from England have changed their name to Todd back prior to the Civil War. That's not to say that all Collins are Todds or the family that I came from, but this family brought Witchcraft to the United States.

I WAS IN PHILADELPHIA THE OTHER NIGHT & I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT, but after I left there the newspaper decided that their greatest campaign would be against me, & many things I said in my testimony they said they checked out & weren't so. It's funny, we checked them out & they still were so!—Like many things that I'll mention tonight.

WE EVEN WENT AS FAR AS TO SAY THAT WITCHCRAFT STARTED OUTSIDE OF SALEM, MASSACHUSETTS, & EVEN NAMED THE BAY THAT THE WITCHES LANDED AT that they named after the head witch, my ancestor, Frances Collins, & the newspaper said that place didn't exist. It exists. We looked at the map & it was still there! We don't quite understand quite what they were up to, but I guess they confused enough people to disregard it. We were wondering when people were going to get around to this, but anyway, I came from the Collins Family.

LET ME QUICKLY REMIND YOU‚ NO WITCHES WERE EXECUTED IN SALEM. There will be a book coming out shortly on this from Chick Publications. Except for one prostitute, everybody executed in Salem were Christians, & they were tried & convicted by a jury & by a pastor who was not a pastor but a slave trader hired by the Collins. The church was built by the Collins & the jury were all members of the Collins' church. Needles to say, they weren't Christians, they were Witches. We went back there & researched it!

BUT TO GO ON QUICKLY SO I DON'T CONFUSE YOU TOO MUCH ... OF COURSE I'VE ALREADY DESTROYED YOUR HIGH SCHOOL HISTORY LESSON, I have a habit of doing that. I'll destroy more than that before the night's over! But when I was a youngster I started practising Witchcraft. I cast my first spell when I was eight, & I started studying for the Priesthood when I was 13. I was asked to join the Outer Court of the coven there in Columbus, Ohio, where I grew up, & at 14 I was initiated.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THIS BEFORE I GO ON, WHEN THE SERVICE IS OVER I WOULD BE GLAD TO TALK WITH ANY MASONS PRESENT‚ & I will compare my initiation to Witchcraft word for word, action for action‚ with yours. They are identical without change, & I'll be glad to discuss the matter with you.

AFTER THAT AT 18 I WAS INITIATED A HIGH PRIEST. This made me the ruling pastor, more or less. You see in Witchcraft, church is a little different‚ only the ministers meet, & they meet once a month. The congregation doesn't even know who is in it. They only go to their particular priest & ask for a favor, they never come together. But at 18 I was made the High Priest.

THAT MADE ME DRAFT-EXEMPT FROM THE U.S. ARMY OR FROM THE U.S. MILITARY SERVICE, because all of the denominations or Brotherhoods of Witchcraft are Federally recognized tax deductible churches & therefore their ministers do not have to serve! I stayed 4-D status, but a lot of us at that time thought it was important to get Witchcraft started at the different military bases‚ so we enlisted anyway, & that was in 1968.

WHEN I WAS DISCHARGED IN 1970 THERE WAS A COVEN IN EVERY MILITARY BASE IN THE UNITED STATES & EUROPE IN ALL FOUR BRANCHES OF THE SERVICE! So it grows very quickly. But I served Vietnam, flew back & re-enlisted for six years & served 30 days of my six-year term, went to Germany for that time. And up until this time I thought Witchcraft was just like being a Baptist or being a Catholic, it was a religion. I didn't realize there was anything to it except Witchcraft‚ & this is where most Witches are at. In fact at this time I believed in a godhead system of gods & goddesses & believed in it very devoutly, I'd been raised in it all my life. I believed in the psychic powers & that's all I believed in.

SO WHILE I WAS IN GERMANY ONE NIGHT, AFTER TAKING SOME DRUGS & DOING A LOT OF DRINKING, I GOT IN A SHOOT-OUT in the middle of downtown Stuttgart with an officer, & the officer got killed. Now the Army has a strict no-no about shooting officers, they don't like it, so they placed me in solitary confinement‚ & there I am, waiting for Leavenworth more or less.

WE'D ALREADY OFFERED A PLEA TO THE JUDGE THAT WE WOULD PLEAD GUILTY IF HE WOULD GIVE ME 30 YEARS & CALL IT QUITS, & he tore it up & laughed at us. So I was pretty sure what was in for me, & I just sat there. And eventually through a riot that had happened at the stockade just a few days prior & a man being placed in solitary confinement with me & then released from the stockade, I got word back to the U.S. by phone of the predicament I was in.

I HAD BEEN IN GERMANY SUCH A LITTLE TIME THAT I HADN'T HAD TIME TO START A COVEN IN STUTTGART‚ & I had no way of getting the word out. So the man placed a phone call to Los Angeles, collect, to my foster mother & told the predicament I was in. I had told him to tell her to cast a spell on the jury so they'd think I was a real nice person, & that's all I thought they would do. I'd seen spells like this work many times—I've seen them work recently many times in courts—but I was not expecting what took place!

ABOUT THREE DAYS AFTER THE MAN MADE THE PHONE CALL, MY CELL DOOR OPENED & THERE STOOD A SENATOR & A U.S. CONGRESSMAN, a couple of Generals & an Honorable Discharge. The Honorable Discharge gave no reason as to why I was being discharged; I just had an Honorable Discharge like I'd served all my time. I had all my time & rank & grade‚ even my top-secret security clearance.

I WAS TOLD THAT MY COURT-MARTIAL RECORDS HAD BEEN DESTROYED & that my military file would be placed with a top-secret security clerk so nobody could get into it, & that was the end of it. The Senator & the Congressman left, I went to Ft. Dix & drew the rest of my papers & stuff, & headed for Columbus, Ohio‚ scratching my head the whole time wondering what type of spell was so good that it had Senators & Congressmen doing its bidding!

I STILL DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON‚ SO I ARRIVED IN OHIO & I AGAIN BEGAN ASKING QUESTIONS THE DAY I ARRIVED THERE. I was told they had been expecting me & here was an envelope with a one-way first-class ticket to Kennedy Airport in New York City, $2‚000 for spending money, & I was to get on the next flight & they would make a phone call & tell them I was coming. That was fine except I wanted to know who "them" were. They said I would find out when I arrived, so I got on the plane, took off, landed at the airport & sure enough, somebody was waiting to meet me.

—A PERSON WHOSE BOOKS I HAD READ & WHO I HAD THOUGHT WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST WIZARDS, MALE WITCHES, THAT HAD EVER LIVED, & I felt very privileged that I could be staying with him learning more about Witchcraft from him. Now I gave his name—which I'm going to give a minute—in Philadelphia last Sunday night. I even gave his job at the time that I was staying with him, except the newspapers called the university that he was supposed to be working for & the university denied he'd ever been there.

IT'S FUNNY, I EVEN SAT IN HIS CLASSES AT THE UNIVERSITY. They have a way of covering things up. He has his own college now for Witches, & his name is Dr. Raymond Buckland, & at that time he was head of the Anthropology Department at Columbia University‚ although Columbia University likes to say that he never existed now.

BUT I LEARNED WITH HIM FOR AWHILE, LEARNED A LITTLE MORE IN MARYLAND, WENT TO CALIFORNIA & STUDIED SOME MORE. During this process I began to learn what most Witches don't know, & that is that the gods they've been worshipping don't exist, that they're imitated by what we call "familiar spirits" or spirit guides, demons—witches don't call them demons, they like to call them spirit guides—& that there is only one god & his name is Lucifer.

NOW THIS WAS A SHOCKING THING TO ME SINCE I WAS RAISED TO BELIEVE THAT THE DEVIL DIDN'T EXIST. You see witches aren't Satanists, they don't believe in Satan, & I was quickly explained to that Lucifer was a good god & not an evil god, & that Jesus was the imitator. So I learned, & I learned many things, both of Witchcraft, & I also learned why the Senators & Politicians were there!

THEY WERE THERE BECAUSE WE WERE THE RELIGION OF A POLITICAL ORGANIZATION CALLED THE ILLUMINATI‚ & I was told all about the Illuminati & its history. I was schooled in the things that it had done, & the things that it was going to do, & the things that I was going to do. And before I go on, I want to show you a few things that will help explain. (Charts:)

THIS THING YOU SEE UP HERE IS ON THE BACK OF YOUR ONE-DOLLAR BILL, & WHAT IT IS IS THE SEAL OF THE ILLUMINATI. America tells us it's the reverse side of the Great Seal of the United States, the only problem is that the United States has never sealed one document with it, ever, & never intends to! It was in existence before the United States was in existence, & I invite you, if you know your Latin, to look at your one-dollar bills later‚ & down at the bottom you will see some Latin.

IT SAYS: "THIS NEW ORDER THAT BEGAN 1776"—THAT MEANS NOT THE 4th OF JULY, BUT MAY 1st, 1776, THE CREATION DAY OF THE ILLUMINATI. It consists of three pyramids in a sphinx, which I'll go through very quickly. We've put a few blocks up here, but there are hundreds of blocks in each pyramid. This is the political organisation. This is the middle pyramid. This is some of the political & police organisations that they use, & we've put up ones that mainly concern the United States.

ON THE TOP OF EACH PYRAMID YOU WILL SEE A CAPSTONE WITH AN EYE IN IT. The capstone is the Rothschild Family or Tribunal that rules the Illuminati, they were the creators of it. The eye is Lucifer, their god & their voice. The first 3 top blocks are on every pyramid. (See above photo.)

THE TOP BLOCK IS WHAT I WAS INITIATED INTO, THE COUNCIL OF 13 CALLED THE GRAND DRUID COUNCIL. They only take orders from the Rothschilds & nobody else. They're their private priesthood. The Council of 33 is directly under them, that is the 33 highest Masons in the World. The Council of 500, some of the richest people in the World—there are 500, actually, some of the richest people & conglomerates in the World—it's their real power as I'll show you in a minute.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SEE MUCH OF THE WRITING ON THIS, BUT THIS IS THE ORGANISATION OF WITCHCRAFT. The Golden Dawn is the 4th block up there, & it's the Rothschild's private coven. The Aquarian Arts Festival is the organization that ties all of the Occult Brotherhoods together in St. Paul, The Witches Church of America I was a member of. The Church of All Worlds is located in St. Louis. These are denominations like Northern Baptist, Southern Baptists, Independent Baptists, etc.

THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF CHURCHES, THE SATANIC BROTHERHOOD OF AMERICA‚ SCIENTOLOGY, UNITY, is the main platform for Witches to be speakers at towards what they consider to be Christian people. The Church of Wicca is another denomination; it's in Greenfield‚ North Carolina.

THE AQUARIAN ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE* IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT WAS FORMED BY ONE OF THE GRAND DRUIDS, ISAAC BONOVITZ, & the American Civil Liberties Union. Its purpose is to pass laws & to sue Christian churches in Federal court for defaming Witches & the Occult, & they have been winning millions of dollars in the Federal courts. (*Militant Jews who fight anti-Semitism.)

THE PROCESS CHURCH OF FINAL JUDGMENT IS A CHURCH WHICH CHARLES MANSON BELONGED TO; I was also a member of it. They believe in human sacrifice & they believe that the only answer to Christianity is to bomb the churches & execute the Christians.

THE GARNARIAN BROTHERHOOD IS THE TRADITIONAL WITCHCRAFT IN ENGLAND. The Order of the Rose Cross—another word for it is Rosicrucians—they are a sacrifice order. And the Holy Order of the Garter is another traditional English Witchcraft group. (Points:)

THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SYMBOL: THIS IS THE POWER OF THE ILLUMINATI. Without the Sphinx the mystery of the Illuminati would have no power. This is where all of its power comes from. You will notice the head of it is the Rothschild Family & the Council of 500. Under that, the Rockefellers, Duponts, Kennedys, Onasises & other families. Queen Juliana is also on the Council of 500.

OVER IN THE CENTER IS ITS HEART, THE BANK OF ENGLAND, THE BANK OF FRANCE, THE FEDERAL RESERVE ACT. Most people feel the Federal Reserve Act is a government organization. It is not! It has nothing to do with the Government of the United States; it is a stockholder company owned by individuals. Much of the stock is owned by non-Americans.

MANY BANKS & FAMOUS CORPORATIONS ARE OWNED OR CONTROLLED BY THE ILLUMINATI. We tell Christians across the U.S. that housewives & husbands cannot shop any day or any week without buying from a company that the Illuminati owns‚ it is impossible.

ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO, PHILLIP ROTHSCHILD ORDERED ONE OF HIS MISTRESSES TO WRITE AN 1100–PAGE BOOK that would describe to all witches how they would take control of the World through the Illuminati: It's called Atlas Shrugs. One of the things in it is happening on the front pages of the newspapers across the United States right now. In fact she spent a third of the book describing how they would raise the oil prices & then later destroy the oil fields & then they would also completely shut down the coal. That was written 12 years ago.

IT ALSO DESCRIBED HOW THEY WOULD BLOW UP GRAIN MILLS‚ how they would derail trains. Their sole purpose is to bankrupt their own companies & destroy their own companies until they destroyed the currency of the whole World, & still be so financially strong they would withstand it!

NOW TO GO BACK TO MY OWN TESTIMONY WHILE EVERYBODY GETS A BREATH! I know you thought you were going to hear a lot about spell-casting or spooky ghosts, but I surprised you, I've got something more spooky to tell you! Anyway, as I learned all this, I was taken up to Colorado Springs, outside of NORAD Center about a mile in the same location, & placed through an initiation for the Council of 13, & then I moved to San Antonio where I lived until I was saved & ruled a 13-state area that I had from there.

WHEN I WAS SAVED I HAD 5000 COVENS, IN OTHER WORDS, CHURCHES, TOTALLING 65,000 PRIESTS & PRIESTESSES. That's just the ministers, not the congregation‚ so it is quite large. This State wasn't one of them, this is run by Mrs. Buckland, but Ohio was one of them, so it's close enough. I lived there until I was saved on Labor Day of 1972. And what led to my salvation was this:

THE GRAND DRUIDS MEET EIGHT TIMES A YEAR ON THE WITCHES' SABBATH AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS IN THE WORLD. I hosted the last meeting that I attended, it was held in San Antonio at the Casino Building. A courier from the London Embassy, a member of our State Department, brought a sealed courier pouch—so Immigration couldn't touch it—to the meeting & left it. It had never been opened from the time it had been sealed at the London Embassy.

DR. BUCKLAND CUT THE SEAL ON IT & TOOK OUT SIX LETTERS THAT WERE SEALED WITH THIS ILLUMINATI CREST. The first four were just business, money that we were to pay here & there & so on. Actually, the Grand Druid Council is nothing but glorified bankers, they write millions of dollars worth of checks to people in political & religious fields every month. But the last two letters led me to want to get out.

I HAD, AS A CHILD, ACCIDENTALLY ATTENDED A FEW SUNDAY SCHOOL CLASSES because I had nothing better to do‚ & during those classes I heard about the Book of Revelation & a few things in it—which was very strange, being back in the early '60s to hear anything like this, at least in the particular kind of church I was going to which was kind of liberal. So I had a little background of what the Christians felt was in their Bible. I thought it was foolish, but I had a little background.

NOW EVEN THOUGH I WAS A PART OF SETTING UP A WORLD GOVERNMENT, I ALWAYS KIND OF SNICKERED THAT THAT WAS EVER GOING TO HAPPEN, that we were serious‚ that it was kind of a little game we were playing. As long as the Rothschilds had all of the money to spend on our plans, we went ahead & spent the money. So I never took it seriously until we opened the last two letters.

NOW IN THE FIRST LETTER THAT WE OPENED OF THOSE LAST TWO, WAS A CHART, & IN THAT CHART IT LISTED AN EIGHT–YEAR PLAN FOR WORLD TAKE-OVER ENDING IN THE DECEMBER MONTH OF 1980. Since I have gotten out, I have not seen one thing fail or be delayed on that time chart. I'm not saying that it won't be delayed, but it's going to take a lot of Christians doing a lot of serious praying which I haven't seen yet. Next‚ the last letter we opened contained—now I'll have to quote it & then I'll have to explain, it, since witches say English but they say words that may not mean anything to you—it said:

"WE HAVE FOUND A MAN WHOM WE BELIEVE TO BE THE SON OF LUCIFER. We believe that through his works & our backing he can become ruler of this world, stop all wars, & bring peace, finally, to this war-stricken World." Now that literally meant that we had found a person so fantastically-powered that he could convince people he was their only salvation. Now that literally meant in Christian terms, he was demon-possessed like nobody had ever seen! (Ed: The Antichrist, 1Jn.2:18; Rev.13.)

AFTER READING THAT ON AUGUST 1, 1972, I DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO LOOK ELSEWHERE TO GET OUT. Now this hadn't been a new idea, before I was made a Grand Druid I had thought about getting out.—So had a young actress in California that was ordered executed & left hanging with her throat cut by one foot—which is one of the tarot cards—to tell all witches that she had betrayed witchcraft & this was her death. And after seeing this & what happened to Sharon Tate, I decided I'd stay in. But now I wanted out. I didn't know how to get out & I didn't consider Christianity at all a way out, but I wanted to get out.

SO A MONTH ROLLED AROUND & I GOT DEEPER INVOLVED IN DRUGS. In fact, the night I was saved I weighed 149 pounds because I was doing $150 a day worth of methedrine speed—mainlining it—what the street people call "crystal." So I was literally in a paranoid mess anyway because of this drug, & all these plans hadn't made me any more restful.

SO ONE SATURDAY AFTERNOON A BAPTIST PREACHER CAME ACROSS ME IN ONE OF OUR OCCULT STORES. He was there because overnight, just about, he had come to realize that Witchcraft was real, when he had always considered it a fable about witches flying on broomsticks with warts on their noses & pointed hats. The way he'd found it was he'd found his daughter an initiated priestess of a Witchcraft coven! He'd caught her casting spells in her bedroom one night.

SO IT BECAME VERY REAL TO HIM‚ & AFTER MUCH PRAYER & FASTING, HE DECIDED TO TRACK DOWN A FEW WITCHES & see if he couldn't witness to them. He wasn't getting through to his daughter so he though he'd go to the head of it & if they got saved, maybe his daughter would get saved. So he found me in one of our occult stores called "The Spanish Bazaar" there in San Antonio & started to witness to me.

HE KNEW WHO I WAS BECAUSE I WAS GOING BY MY WITCHCRAFT NAME, LANCE, & just about everybody in town had seen me on television or read about me in the newspapers about Witchcraft. So he started witnessing to me & I told him in certain profanities that I didn't care for it & that I would like him to leave. So when this failed he decided that he wasn't going to get past the demons that were in me, so he started ordering the demons to be quiet. Then he proceeded to pray for me whether I liked it or not, & the prayer went something like this:

"I DEMAND THAT SATAN STOP GIVING YOU HIS BENEFITS, INCLUDING DRUGS, I ORDER THAT TO BE SO IN THE NAME OF JESUS! And I command Satan to stop communicating with you supernaturally & I break your power of Witchcraft till you come face–to–face with the Gospel, & then I command your mind to be set free so that you can perceive the Gospel & make you own mind up."—Now this was necessary in my condition because I didn't have my own mind. And then he left.

I THOUGHT HE WAS CRAZY‚ SO I WENT UPSTAIRS & DID SOME MORE DRUGS because I couldn't understand why I was feeling the way I was feeling, & that was not too well at that moment. So that night, I didn't have anything to worry about, I did all my drugs up because I was expecting a very large shipment of drugs to come across at Laredo‚ Mexico.—Except something happened that had never happened before: The drugs got busted! The wrong guard that was not on our salary was on the border that night, & they even brought the wrong car across that had the wrong license number.

EVERYTHING THAT COULD HAVE GONE WRONG, WENT WRONG, & THE SHIPMENT WAS BUSTED & I WAS WITHOUT DRUGS. So when I found out about it, I made a few phone calls around different areas in the U.S. trying to find some drugs that could get to me very quickly. Most people had already used theirs up or were at the end of it, & I was told that I'd have some Tuesday morning—& that's a long time to wait for an addict as bad as I was!

SO ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT, LABOR DAY NIGHT, AS I WAS GOING THROUGH EXTREME PROPORTIONATE WITHDRAWAL, I got in my car & started to drive it out of the parking lot & almost drove it in the river! So I left it there & I went for a walk. I walked about four or five blocks & I came upon a movie theater. Now it was just an everyday movie theater—it's still there to this day—shows just regular pictures, not anything to do with the Christian Church, so I thought I was pretty safe. I paid my money & went in, sat down three rows back & wanted to get right into the movie.

AND THE MOVIE WAS CALLED "THE CROSS & THE SWITCHBLADE." Now that my seem funny to you, it was not funny to me at the time. So I sat there trying to make wisecracks at the movie all night & became interested in Nicky Cruz. See, you think with one mind—I think with the same mind with now as a Christian—but as a witch I thought with a different mind: Dave Wilkerson was the enemy & Nicky Cruz was the hero.

SO I SAT DOWN THERE & I THOUGHT, THIS GUY'S PRETTY GOOD, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HIM, maybe he'll convert the preacher over ... & then he got saved! Now that term meant nothing to us‚ but when he changed from the old Nicky Cruz to the new Nicky Cruz, that meant something, that was impossible!

THE CORNERSTONE OR THE WHOLE FLOOR OF WITCHCRAFT is that you cannot cast a spell, you cannot mix a potion, you cannot do a rite without a firm knowledge of astrology. It is the base for all practices in Witchcraft‚ & one of its teachings is that you are born a set personality & there is nothing you can do to change from that set personality, & mine was pretty raunchy as it was. (See No.107.)

SO IF NICKY CRUZ CHANGED, THIS WAS A MIRACLE THAT WAS NOT UNDERSTANDABLE TO ANY WITCH. So going out of there I was in a very confused state of mind, not realizing much of what had happened even to the point that I forgot I was even going through withdrawal. And as I walked out the door a young man walked up to me, handed me this tract & said, "Here, this is for you"—& turned around & walked off! Didn't give anybody else a tract, just left, & the tract was called "Bewitched," it was on Witchcraft. (See Nos. 290, 291‚ 666.)

NOW, I WAS RAISED IN A SUPERNATURAL WORLD. All our lives we had spent listening to spirit guides, & since that preacher had prayed for me, my spirit guides had not said a word to me. I was in a vacuum, much described like this: Have you ever gone through a trial where you pray & pray & you feel like you're not getting through? Well, this was the way I felt, & nothing was coming through. I was in a vacuum.

AFTER 14 YEARS OF DEPENDING UPON THESE SPIRITS TO TELL ME EVERYTHING TO DO, NOBODY WAS TELLING ME ANYTHING—because this preacher had taken authority over them & had ordered them to be quiet. And as I was reading this booklet I had sense enough to know that something was trying to get to me, something was trying to get through, but none of my spirit guides would be giving me books on Witchcraft that was telling me the Devil was behind it!

SO I THREW THE BOOK AWAY & WAS IN A BIGGER STATE OF CONFUSION THAN I'D EVER BEEN. I walked back to where my apartment was in the Casino Building, & it consists of several nightclubs back there‚ & I walked into one, the Club Aquarius. I walked to the back of the club & sat down in the office back there by myself & tried to think things out.

I SPENT SEVERAL HOURS TRYING TO THINK OF A CHRISTIAN CHURCH THAT I COULD GO TO & ASK QUESTIONS OF THAT WE DIDN'T OWN THE MINISTER OF. Now, that may seem kind of strange to you‚ but as an ex-Grand Druid it's not strange at all. Much that you see in churches that you just think is liberalism, is pay-offism. I'll go over that more simply: They've taken the money & rejected the Lord!

IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR A MINISTER THAT'S NOT SOLD OUT TO GOD TO TURN DOWN HALF-A-MILLION DOLLARS if it's laid down as a bribe, & they can get even higher. In fact, one church I know of got eight million dollars in two years, & another one got ten million dollars in one year! So‚ they can receive some money.

ANYWAY, I DIDN'T HAVE A MEMBERSHIP LIST WITH ME SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHO WE OWNED & WHO WE DIDN'T, & I was afraid to call the wrong pastor because that could get me killed. So I sat there thinking a little bit & I remembered that the night before, one of our witches that was a prostitute in a downtown area had come screaming into the nightclub the night before about the coffee house called the Greengate Club.

STRANGE PLACE ... IT USED TO BE A BURLESQUE PLACE ABOUT THREE MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT‚ & THIS MINISTER CAME IN & PREACHED AN UNINVITED REVIVAL. The revival took about 15 minutes & 20-some people got saved, including the dancers, bartenders, the band, people in the congregation & the husband & wife that owned the place.

SO WHEN THEY GOT SAVED THEY DECIDED TO TURN IT OVER TO A BAPTIST CHURCH that they were going to—the Baptist Church that was praying & fasting for me! Now don't confuse Jack Taylor with the Pastor that came in, he was from another church. But he couldn't get his church to pray & fast for witches since his church thought he was crazy when he said "witch." So he called up Castle Hills, which was well-known for working in the power of God, & they asked some people to pray & fast & they got about 500 people to pray & fast over that weekend that I'd get saved!—And I firmly believe that had a lot to do with it.

SO, SHE HAD TOLD ME ABOUT THIS PLACE & SHE HAD WANTED US TO BURN IT DOWN, BUY IT OUT OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE IT WAS RUINING HER BUSINESS. I mean‚ here's a prostitute propositioning a soldier, & here's somebody over here preaching the Word of God to him! It doesn't work. So she was very upset, & I decided I would go look this place up. So I walked on over by the bus station & went in. It was about two in the morning & the place was supposed to close at midnight.

NOW I FIRMLY BELIEVE TO THIS DAY THAT GOD BREAKS COKE FOUNTAINS, because when I came in there the manager had stayed to fix the Coke fountain as it had broken down just as he was ready to close. So I walked in & he started witnessing to me, & it was fine for about, oh, 45 minutes to an hour, & I brought up Witchcraft. So‚ in a white, kind of ghostly-like face, he called the Pastor & said, "I've got this witch down here!"

AND THE PASTOR SAID, "WELL, WE'VE BEEN PRAYING & FASTING THAT HE'D GET THERE‚ GO AHEAD & WITNESS TO HIM. We'll just call everybody up & start praying!" So they started praying & he started witnessing to me more, & started showing me things in the Bible, started praying for me. Pretty soon he was praying, & I was praying & the Lord was saving me!—And I've never forgotten it.

YOU SEE, I WAS BORN IN A WITCHCRAFT FAMILY WHERE I INHERITED EVERYTHING MY PARENTS HAD. In other words, I inherited their demons, or ones just like the ones they had. So I was never free from the time the doctor spanked me on the bottom in the delivery room until that night of '72. And you may have felt great when you got saved, but I don't think you felt as great as I felt when I got saved! We may argue that point.

BUT FOR THE FIRST TIME, I COULD THINK FOR MYSELF WITHOUT THIS HEAVY, LIKE COTTON IN MY HEAD, is about the only way you could describe it. And my feeling was that if they killed me going out of that place‚ then I would die happy!—And I walked out, not really thinking about any danger. The next night I was back & saying, "You know, I would like to live long enough to enjoy this!"

THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT YOU DON'T LEAVE WITCHCRAFT ONCE YOU'RE INITIATED—ONCE YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE IN! To prove this point, there have been since my salvation about 500 people saved out of Witchcraft—that's not very many when you know how many millions are in—& 50 them have been killed in five years! My life is in danger all the time, my wife's & myself, & all the people that have come out.

THEY START AT $10,000 BOUNTIES & WORK UP TO SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND, but it's not just witches. I have a few contacts still back in the Illuminati that will do me favors every once in awhile; they don't understand why I would want to be a Christian, but they don't think I'm all that bad. Well‚ I had them run a computer check through one of the computers they have in New York that the occult owns to keep tabs on everybody.

I WANTED TO CHECK OUT A FEW OF THE CHRISTIAN MINISTERS THAT I MIGHT KNOW THAT HAVE THIS SAME PROBLEM‚ & Brother Berry's name came up & they've got $10,000 on that man's head. Jack Chick of Chick Publications‚ Dr. Van Impe, Joe Boyd, Dan Hartree, my pastor Roland Rasmussen & many others, to go on & on. The witches have felt these men are such a danger to them that they have decided that they are better dead than alive & are willing to spend millions of dollars to make sure it happens.

SO IT IS A WARFARE, & IT GOES ON‚ & IT'S GETTING WORSE & WORSE, & we had to pray much before we came out to the East Coast. Everybody said I was crazy when I moved to L.A. to minister to the people out there, but they don't know the East Coast! It's been an experience, & we ask that you pray for us as we go around ministering.

MY WIFE IS USUALLY WITH ME ON THE ROAD, but she had to go back to Los Angeles on an emergency, & we ask that you pray for her while she's on the road. I think what I'll do now is simply open it for your questions & I hope that I have the answers. If you have a question, just raise your hand. Let's see if we can do this without turning the lights out. Yeah‚ we can, praise the Lord! (Shows:)

THESE ARE TYPES OF JEWELRY THAT WERE CREATED BY DEMONIC INSTRUCTION TO VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE. Christians are astonished when I tell them that the greatest Wizard that ever lived, male witch, was King Solomon. When he backslid he really backslid! And as great as his writings were in our Bible, they were as great in the Witchcraft bible! The very initiation rites & how to prepare Witchcraft bibles, how to conjure demons up, everything‚ even how to commit human sacrifice are writings that he created.

AND BEFORE I TELL YOU WHAT THEY MEAN I WANT TO SAY THIS: IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO BUY THIS JEWELRY, except for the Ankh outside of a witchcraft store until a few years ago. They were hand-made by silversmiths belonging to the priesthood & sold only to initiated witches in occult stores. Since then, the Illuminati have decided that one of the greatest tricks they could play on the Christians was to put this jewelry around their necks & on their hands.

THE REASON IS, THIS STUFF ATTRACTS DEMONS‚ THEY CLING AROUND WHERE IT'S AT. Now, if you're shocked to see the Star of David up there, that's because it's just recently been called the Star of David. For thousands of years it was called the Hexagram or the Crest of Solomon.

NOW WHEN A WITCH WANTS TO PRACTICE WITCHCRAFT, SHE'LL GET IN A PENTAGRAM, that's the five-pointed star in the circle, their strongest form of protection. Then they will lay this six-pointed star, or hexagram—which means "to hex" or to cast black magic or to put a spell on somebody—they'll put it in a circle on the floor & this will cause the demons to appear at their instruction.

IT IS THE MOST EVIL OF SIGNS IN WITCHCRAFT. I know I may not be getting through to you what I'm trying to get through, but it's dangerous to have it. The pentagram, the pinnacle with the one point up, means Witchcraft; two points up means demon-worship or Satanism.

IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THE EASTERN STAR SYMBOL IS A TWO POINTS UP, FIVE–POINTED STAR. This symbolizes the goat head, which Satanists believe is representative of the Devil, & they use this goat head & worship it like they are worshipping the Devil.

THE ANKH MEANS THAT YOU DESPISE VIRGINITY, believe in fertility rites, practice fertility rites & worship the sun god Ra. The sun god Ra is the Egyptian name for Lucifer.

THE PEACE SYMBOL UP THERE IS NOT THE PEACE SYMBOL. I didn't have to do the initiation that contained the broken cross because I was born into Witchcraft & it wasn't necessary, & people who have no Christian background do not have to do it. But if a person raised in a Christian church—whether they were Christian or not—wants to join Witchcraft, they would have to take a ceramic cross & turn it upside-down & break the cross bars down, symbolising their rejection of Calvary & the Christian Church.

THIS IS SAID TO BRING YOU PEACE OF MIND WHILE YOU PRACTISE WITCHCRAFT, that's where it got the word "Peace Symbol" from. We called it the Peace Symbol for the last 20 years, they've called it the Broken Cross for the last several hundred. Now which are you going to believe?

AFTER THAT YOU HAVE WHAT IS CALLED THE UNICORN'S HORN, OR THE ITALIAN HORN IS WHAT THEY ARE CALLING IT NOW SO THEY CAN SELL IT. Literally, the translation is: "You trust the Devil for your finance." If you don't trust the Devil for your finance, don't wear it. I can guarantee it has just the opposite reaction in a Christian's life. The last symbol is the symbol that initiated priests & priestesses, coven members, wear to show they have been initiated.

NOW CHRISTIANS ASK ME‚ "WHAT'S THIS GOT TO DO WITH THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH?—WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT!" This morning we cast demons out of a young man who got delivered from this who had his initiation scar on his wrist who was a counselor & a member of Word of Life Ministries, the Word of Life Christian Club Ministries. They are everywhere‚ people!

THE YOUNG LADY WHO TOOK MY PLACE GREW UP‚ WAS RAISED & WAS A MEMBER OF THOMAS ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH in Lynchburg, Virginia, Jerry Falwell's church. Jerry doesn't know it, but that's where she grew up & was raised, & she now sits on the Council of 13. So, they are everywhere. Next question? (Question inaudible on tape.) Well, the Bilderbergers are in the 500. I didn't know you would know that term, so I didn't use it.

(QUESTION ABOUT TRILATERAL COUNCIL.) I'm sure you couldn't see the pyramid‚ but it was on the pyramid. The Trilateral Council is the Inner Council of the CFR, Council of Foreign Relations, which is the American name for the Illuminati. They are not there without full knowledge & they are handpicked by David Rockefeller, the leader of the Illuminati in the United States. OK? (Inaudible question.) I don't know. I wasn't over that state.

LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, IS IT A UNITED METHODIST CHURCH? Well, that's because the United Methodist Church has accepted the Omega Brotherhood, an organization started in Phoenix by United Methodist members who believe seances are Christian practice‚ & it is now accepted in the United Methodist Church. So he can be that & not be kicked out.

(QUESTION: WOULD YOU BRIEFLY OUTLINE THE STEPS REMAINING IN THE WORLD TAKEOVER PLAN BETWEEN NOW & 1980?) If the Pastor has no objections, OK. The reason I ask this is that it can be pretty frightening & pretty unbelievable. I like to leave that to the last question so they'll believe everything else I have to say before I say this! They usually reject everything after that because they're sitting around in shock!

WHAT REMAINS IS THIS, THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF A TRIAL-&-ERROR RIGHT NOW, & THEY TEST THINGS. Last year they tested what it would be like to be without fuel to heat your homes. This year they are going to see if they can't starve you, absolutely shut all electricity off in the East Coast. Now the timetable in the book Atlas Shrugs ended with this: "When the lights of New York City go out for the last time, we will have the World!"

NOW, THAT MEANT THAT TOWARDS THE END THEY ARE GOING TO CUT THE CITIES OFF COMPLETELY. There'll be a Teamsters strike, nothing will move for months, I mean nothing will move. These strikes will be more violent than the coal miners' strikes are right now, & the coal miners will strike again.

THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DESTROYING ALL STORED FOOD & FARMLAND IN THE FARMER'S STRIKE so that we will be without any food in the cities or in the country or anywhere except what is in the Federal storehouses. The air controllers will strike & nothing will fly over the skies of the U.S. except military flights. The longshoremen will strike & nothing will come off the boats, & the train engineers will strike & nothing will move. In other words, nothing is going to move at all.

NOW IF YOU LIVE IN A LARGE CITY‚ HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET YOUR FOOD if they don't bring it to you? Everything will be paralyzed, nothing will move. At the same time there will be riot & revolution within the United States, in fact the whole World will be in it.

IT SEEMS STRANGE, & CHRISTIANS CANNOT GRASP THAT A MASS MURDERER LIKE CHARLES MANSON WILL BE RELEASED FROM PRISON. You should have heard the vote when he was up for release a month ago. He was kept there by two votes. Two votes kept him from leaving prison. Now, they didn't want him out, & let me explain something, he did not go there because the jury found him guilty.

THEY COULD NOT HAVE SENT HIM TO PRISON IF THE ILLUMINATI DID NOT WANT HIM TO GO. He went there for a reason, & we have talked to prison officials across the U.S. & people belonging to the motorcycle clubs & so on, & we have received the same answer: He has them united.

THERE IS A MASS ARMY WITHIN EVERY PRISON FROM COAST TO COAST. They have been promised weapons, military weapons. To verify this‚ the U.S. Army has said, & so has the Marine Corps, that in the last five years they have lost many of their small arms weapons to theft in the United States. That includes hand-held ground-to-air, heat–seeking missiles that can take a DC-10 out of the sky at 40,000 feet. One of the largest storehouses is in Baltimore & the second largest is in Philadelphia for these weapons, so they are very close to you.

HE HAS BEEN GATHERING AN ARMY, & OUTSIDE OF PRISON IT AMOUNTS TO OVER 100,000 PROFESSIONALLY-TRAINED MILITARY PEOPLE. They have been hiring ex-Green Berets, Rangers, Navy‚ to train them in camps—one is down in West Virginia to give you an example—to train them in special forces tactics. Every one of them is as trained as a Green Beret, & that is very well-trained! Manson will be released either next year or the following year, they haven't decided yet.

I'LL TELL YOU THIS, THE ONE THING THAT WILL HOLD THEIR PLAN UP IS IF THEY DON'T GET THE GUN LAW PASSED. These people will refuse to go out & cause havoc if people will be shooting back at them‚ so they have been promised that all the guns will be confiscated before they make their move. Now, they have been promised they will get this country, what they don't know is they have been set up.

THEY HAVE BEEN SET UP JUST SO THEY WILL KILL A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE: The figure at the present is that in the first year, one million people will be butchered. I use that term because that is about how to describe what will happen, & I will leave it to your imagination & your prayer life as to who is scheduled to be killed.

THIS IS JUST SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE NATIONAL GUARD CALLED OUT. They recently passed a law that gives the President the right to suspend the Constitution & Congress & call Martial Law & call out the military. Now that would seem too harsh to us right now, but what happens when millions of people are getting shot at & killed?—Then they will be calling for it to happen! That's some of the stuff that's coming about. Some of it is legislation that is being passed right now.

HOUSE BILL 41 WENT THROUGH THE HOUSE & IS BEFORE THE SENATE RIGHT NOW. If it passes‚ it will pull much of the Federal tax deduction status of many of the Christian churches, & the ones that keep it, the people who give to them, their names will be printed with their addresses, their phone numbers & their work addresses of every giver in every Post Office in the United States. It's called House Bill 41. This will give those radicals your dwelling address & where you work so that they can come & look you up!

ANOTHER ONE WAS THE MARTIAL LAW ACT, WHICH HAS BEEN PASSED, & THE ANTI–HOARDING ACT. It is the one thing they fear. See, the whole thing is, if you can be independent of Federal help, their plan won't work. You must be dependent on the Federal Government for every bite of food, every light bulb in your house & every warmth that you feel coming through your homes. You must be dependent upon them.

NOW THE ANTI-HOARDING ACT FORBIDS YOU TO STORE OVER ONE-MONTH'S FOOD SUPPLY, to store medical supplies or fuel supplies over a month at a time. There is a reason for it—their reason. The last one is called the Genocide Act, some of you may have heard of it. They defeated it eight years ago but now it looks like it is going to get passed, it's before the Senate now.

IT CAN PUT YOU IN FEDERAL PRISON FOR CONVERTING SOMEBODY FROM THE FAITH THAT THEY WERE BORN INTO BY THEIR PARENTS. In other words, if you convert & Catholic, a Jew or a witch, & their parents press charges, you an go to Federal Penitentiary for it, & it's getting ready to pass now. (Inaudible question.) Well‚ you're talking to an ex-Illuminatist who knows that there is no such thing.

ANYBODY COMING OUT OF THE ILLUMINATI CAN TELL YOU THAT THE COMMUNIST PARTY IS RUN BY ILLUMINATISTS, NOT COMMUNISTS. History will show it, that sometime back in 1776, Adrian Pike—then the head of the Illuminati, also head of the Masons at the time—said that they needed to create a political party that would frighten the World & keep it fighting each other until they could bring peace to the World—& then Karl Marx showed up. Now if you go to the British Museum, you can find two checks for several thousand pounds made out to Karl Marx, signed by Nathan Rothschild. OK?!

AND I CAN GO INTO MUCH HISTORY ABOUT THE COMMUNIST PARTY, HOW LENIN & TROTSKY BOTH STAYED AT THE KRUPP MANSION IN NEW YORK, financed by Rockefeller & Krupp & Swifts & others: How they put four million dollars worth of Jacob Swift's gold to finance the revolution, sailed from New York Harbor where their ship was confiscated by the British Government as it tried to run a blockade during WWI.—How Woodrow Wilson called & ordered their release so America wouldn't go into the War, & how they were sent on their way. There's much history about it.

(QUESTION: WHAT DOES WITCHCRAFT HAVE TO DO WITH THE MASONS?) Well, other than the 33 highest Masons who are on the Council of 33, most Masons do not realize that they have taken the same rites that makes a person & witch. They have taken the same rites to become a Mason, except that we cut our wrists & they don't cut their wrists‚ that's the only differences!

IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME. I could lay a drawing of our temple down, your temple is laid out the same. I can describe our Witchcraft rites, yours are exactly the same. We've been doing it for 8000 years—what's your excuse? (Question about the organizations involved.)

LET ME READ OFF THE ORGANIZATIONS REAL QUICK: B'nai B'rith; American Civil Liberties Union; the Scottish Rites—by the way, Witchcraft is supposed to be the old religion of Scotland; the New York Rites; the Jaycees; & I want to explain about the Junior Chamber of Commerce. We in the Illuminati needed a group to fund & to finance the training of the radical groups that would be used later—the Jr. Chamber of Commerce was the group chosen to do the funding. The Masonic Lodges‚ both the White & the Blue; the Knights of Columbus; the Knights of Philistivis & the Oddfellows.

NOW, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THESE LODGES: THAT MEANS ITS LEADERS USE THESE ORGANIZATIONS FOR THEIR PURPOSES, that does not mean that the members of those organizations know what's going on. Clear back after our Revolutionary War—you can find this in the Adams Chronicles—John Adams wrote George Washington asking him to beware of Thomas Jefferson & Alexander Hamilton & their misuse of the Masonic Lodges which Washington was a member of, & this is a direct quote: "Because they were using it for Illuminati purposes & the worship of Lucifer."

NOW I HAVE IN MY CAR PHOTOSTATIC COPIES OF BOOKS HANDED ONLY TO CHOSEN ONES IN THE 32nd—that means just the ones they've handpicked out of the 32nd Level & the 33rd Level—describing the initiation of the 33rd Level Masons, also describing what they thought of Jesus—believe me, it's not polite!—& who the true God is.

THEY CONSIDER JESUS TO BE THE IMPERSONATOR & the true god is Lucifer, & that's in black-&–white out of Masonic books. Now I've got them in my car, & if it gets into a debate after the service, I can go get'm & let you read'm out of your own books! Next question?

(QUESTION: BEFORE I WAS SAVED I HAD A DECK OF TAROT CARDS, & right after James Bond came out I got rid of them because I started feeling I was getting answers & some of those answers were taking place & I was scared.) Oh, I'm sure. You got your answers from demons. (Q: Yeah, that's what scared me.) If you had read the 18th Chapter of Deuteronomy, you wouldn't have done it. You could have been stoned to death in the Old Testament for it.

(Q: ARE THE CARDS SET UP A CERTAIN WAY? Does it mean something the way the cards are set up?) Every drawing means something, & the demons control how they fall & use'm. But they can only be 90% accurate. Nothing in Witchcraft is ever 100% accurate. OK, next?

(QUESTION: WHAT ARE THE ILLUMINATI PLANS FOR ISRAEL?) THEY WILL USE ISRAEL TO GAIN CONTROL OF THE WORLD. All nations except the United States will go after Israel just before they take over the World, it's called World War III, & Jimmy Carter with the U.S. Government will step in & save Israel. (Dad: Already happening!) Right now‚ Carter is losing popularity. Don't let that deceive you, give him a year, he'll be a god to many people. OK?

THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IF I TOLD YOU EVERYTHING I'D LOSE YOU. Just hang in there. I said what I've said tonight five years ago & people were ready to lynch me; now they're listening to me because they can see it in the newspaper‚ OK? (Question: What can we as Christians do?) Pray!

I'LL TELL YOU THIS, THE ONLY THING THE ILLUMINATI FEAR‚ AS I SAID, IS AN INDEPENDENT PERSON who can live, eat, sleep‚ stay warm & defend themselves separate from Federal help. You see, they tried twice before; they have never been this organized, OK? They've tried twice before in 200 years to rule the World & came very close. Once during Napoleon & once during WWI, they came extremely close to gaining the World both times. Now let's pray that the Lord messes up their plans one more time. I haven't seen it happen yet, but I'd like to see it happen!

(QUESTION ABOUT A COVEN IN PENNSYLVANIA SOMEWHERE.) I'm not familiar with the town. I wasn't over Pennsylvania, so I don't know. If you were invited to a coven down there, there's one down there. (Q: Are you sure?) Yeah. They don't invite you to covens unless there was one down there.

NOW I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU; HAVE YOU BEEN PLAYING WITH THE OUIJA BOARD AT SEANCES? (Q: Oh no, I'm scared of Ouija boards!) Well, I can only tell you they wouldn't have invited you down there unless you had been doing something of the occult, & I'll let it go at that.

(QUESTION: IS ROCK MUSIC AN OUTGROWTH OF WITCHCRAFT?)—YOU CAN'T PRACTICE WITCHCRAFT WITHOUT IT! Now when I was in there, I was president of the largest booking agency—they've had to change their name since then because of the publicity I've been giving them—but at the time they were called Zodiac Productions. I knew most of the rock groups in the united States—I still do. Some of my closest friends are like David Crosby from Crosby, Stills‚ Nash & Young, & Graham Nash & others that are around there, & I still talk to many of them.

MOST OF THE ROCK GROUPS ARE MEMBERS OF A WITCHCRAFT CHURCH. That doesn't mean they've been initiated, it means that's their religion, & when they do a song they'll ask the witch coven or the temple to cast a spell over that song so that it will become a hit & sell. Now what takes place when a witch casts a spell is they order a lot of demos to do things. They don't know that's what they do, but that's in essence what happens.

NOW THAT MEANS WHEN YOU GO BUY AN ALBUM & YOU TAKE IT HOME WITH YOU, IT'S LIKE BUYING A BOX OF CRACKER JACKS: YOU GET A FREE SURPRISE—IT'S CALLED A DEMON! It goes along with the record. Now much of the music is written in witch language by witches. Elton John has made the statement that he has never written a song or sung a song that was not written in witch language, example: "Beyond the Yellow Brick Road" is 100% witch language.

THAT'S WHY MANY SONGS, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. That's why many people who listen to them don't understand until they get high on drugs & then all of a sudden the meanings start coming to them. Many songs have been written in witch language such as the whole album by Carole King called "Tapestry."

THE BOOK OF PROPHECY TO WITCHES IS THE DOUBLE WHITE ALBUM THAT THE BEATLES PRODUCED containing the song "Helter Skelter." Every song in it is prophecy. Oh, let's see… "Horse with No Name", "One Tin Soldier", I could list thousands of songs that were written this way. They definitely have demonic influence behind them.

PARENTS, I WANT TO SAY THIS TO YOU, HAVE YOU NOTICED THE INCREASE OF REBELLION IN TEENAGERS IN THE HOME? The reason is, it's your fault.—You let them listen to it. It stirs up rebellion. It's not the words in the song, it's the music. Witches know it, they hit certain chords on purpose. As many people that have once been in hypnosis, like Dr. Berry when he was younger was involved in hypnosis can tell you. (See "Musical Key," No.326.)

THE MUSIC IS HYPNOTIC. IT STIRS UP A WAR-LIKE NATURE IN THE YOUNG PEOPLE. Now they're going to "boo" me when this is over‚ but it's still the truth anyway. Now if you want to have them stay the way they are & you want to baby 'em, because you're afraid they might get mad at you & run away from home or something, you go ahead & let them keep on playing it because they're going to do it anyway.

—OR YOU GO HOME & YOU BREAK THE RECORDS & YOU BURN THE COVERS! Now, when witches get saved‚ nobody tells them to get out of rock music. When they hand their Witchcraft items over to be burned—you notice I said burned, not just thrown in the trashcan, it's Scriptural—they hand their records over too, because they've lived a in a World of the supernatural & they know the supernatural is tied in with music.

NOW, THE MOST PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF LUCIFER THAT EVER EXISTED IS IN THE 28TH CHAPTER OF EZEKIEL on the King of Tyrus. It describes Lucifer being created with musical instruments imbedded in his body. It's true, as a person who has seen him, it's true. He thinks he's a god & therefore he must have music because gods must have music. (See also Isa.14:4–21.)

NOW YOU CAN GO AHEAD & LET HIS MUSIC BE PLAYED IN YOUR HOME IF YOU CHOOSE, OR YOU CAN BECOME A STRONGER CHRISTIAN & GET RID OF IT! You're the parents, the parents are the ones. The kids are not going to answer for it. (Inaudible question.) No, it would become an effect. It's strange because they wouldn't have gotten attacked without Christian help.

SEE, WITCHCRAFT NEVER SACRIFICES ANYTHING THAT THEY DON'T GAIN 10,000 MORE‚ & when they lost the battle on purpose in court with the Moonies, that set the stage for the Genocide Act. While we were yelling, "Yeah, get them out of those false cults & rehabilitate them!" we were setting the stage for our own downfall. You don't give up freedom to a certain group without losing it yourself. They've always set it up this way, & I'm always surprised at how easy Christians fall into it. (Ed: Amen!)

(QUESTION: HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY?) How do I feel about them? Did you see that pyramid? I'm against any organization whose leaders are 33rd Level Masons‚ & their leader is a 33rd Level Mason. Now, he's taken off his Masonic ring in the last couple of years, but he is still a 33rd Level Mason. You cannot hit the Illuminati & be part of it.

THE ILLUMINATI KNOWS THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT ABOUT THEM‚ people found out about them without my help. Brother Berry knew about them before I came along. So we find out about them, & the best thing they can do is call your attention towards something else & say that's that. So they have reflected the attention on Zionism & have said that's where it's at. The only problem is that most of the people in the Illuminati aren't Jews. Their founders were Jews by birth, but not by religion. …

BUT MOST OF ITS LEADERS, EXCEPT FOR THE ROTHSCHILDS, ARE GAELIC: SCOTCH OR FRENCH GAELIC. It's got nothing to do with Jews. My family & most of the people serving on the Grand Druid, their family trees go back to the pagan temples in Rome & Greece & England, to the original priesthood. Some go back as far as Egypt & Babylon. It's got nothing to do with the Jews. …

SO I DON'T LIKE THEM. I DON'T LIKE ANYBODY THAT'S A HATE GROUP FOR ONE THING‚ & I've heard too much hate doctrine about the Birch Society. See, I'm not choosy about who I hit!—Ha! (Inaudible question.) Did everybody understand what he was saying?

A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN IN THE OCCULT & BEEN SAVED, ARE THEY MORE TROUBLED BY DEMONS THAN A PERSON WHO HAS NEVER BEEN THERE?—Yes, if they haven't been through a deliverance. But at the same time, they are a bigger weapon against the Devil. You can't trick a witch with false doctrine, they've heard them all. You can't pass off a phony Christian on a witch, & you can't pass a witch off on them that's a Christian.—They've been there, they know what to spot.

THAT'S WHY I LOOK AT A PERSON'S EYES WHEN I TALK TO THEM. If that person has demonic influence in their life, I want to know about it‚ I want to know who I'm talking to & who I'm not talking to. And when you've lived in a supernatural world & you have dealt with demons like witches have, it's no different when you spot them in a person who's professing to be a Christian who isn't living the life.

SO THEY ARE A STRONGER WEAPON AGAINST THE DEVIL, BECAUSE THEY SERVED HIM. See, as close as we are to Jesus now, as loving & compassionate as the relationship we have with Him now, that's how we felt about the Devil, whether we knew he was the Devil or not. And so when you are that close to something, you know about it.

IF YOU BACKSLIDE YOU STILL KNOW ABOUT CHRISTIANITY, SO A BACKSLIDDEN SAVED WITCH KNOWS ABOUT WITCHCRAFT—IT'S THE SAME THING. But they do have problems, & needless to say, the Devil doesn't like it‚ so we're hit a little harder than maybe somebody else might be. But at the same time, we grow faster & stronger because of it. (Inaudible question.)

YES, WE ARE STARTING A RETREAT. As I told you, many people have been killed that have come out of it. It has gotten so that witches aren't trusting to come out of it now. Very few are coming out because of the fear, & there is no place for them to go. I mean, when you ask a Christian‚ "Will you let this witch come into your home so they'll have a place to stay?"—& all of a sudden you visualize people throwing grenades through your window & shooting up your house, you change your mind!—Because that's probably what will happen.

SO‚ WE HAVE DECIDED TO BUILD A RETREAT SOMEWHERE IN THE WILDERNESS COUNTRY somewhere on the West Coast—I'm not going to say where—an armed retreat where these people can be safe till they grow, & then they can either leave the retreat or they can stay. And it will serve a double purpose—I don't want to go into—later for Christians. But right now, that's its purpose, & we're believing that it will get built. We need $50,000, & in the month-&-a-half since we have been trying to raise the money, my pastor's received $25.

SO, YOU SEE, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO CONVINCE CHRISTIANS THAT A PLACE LIKE THIS IS NEEDED when they can go home to their safe house every night, not realizing that for a witch to become saved or a witch to leave Witchcraft, their life is in extreme danger & they probably will be killed. It's easy to feel safe when you're safe. I guess that's why I feel it, because I'm in danger all the time, so I know how they feel. And I've had many a close friend that have become Christians & then been killed, so we are trying to build such a retreat.

(QUESTION: CAN A PERSON BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF A DEMON & PROFESS TO BE A CHRISTIAN & NOT KNOW IT?) Oh, I really don't think ... yeah, I guess you can. I have to look at it from your point of view. A woman that was a Christian was at Brother Berry's church this morning & we put her through a deliverance. In other words, we cast the demons out of her.

SHE WAS NOT POSSESSED—A CHRISTIAN CANNOT BE POSSESSED, I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR—but she had demonic spiritual influences. She had tried to take her life, she was going into fits of depression to where her prayer life could not conquer them. She hadn't in 18 months felt the joy that she felt this morning when it was over. When you can no longer crucify the flesh‚ & it goes beyond just crucifying the flesh, then it's time you cast out the demon. (Q: This is done by prayer?) That's how it's done.

IT'S DONE THROUGH PRAYER & THE BLOOD & THE NAME OF JESUS. I don't pray to it, I just tell the devil to get out! Actually, it is very well noted‚ you can do it for yourself if you have the faith. Actually, they are the ones that are doing it anyway; we just have to say a prayer of rejection & we just take authority over them, but they could do the same thing if they believed it.

(QUESTION: IS TEX WATSON, THE FELLOW WHO KILLED SHARON TATE, BORN AGAIN?) That's what he says, yeah. (Q: And he is in prison now. Will he be released & is he a witch?) But you've got to understand something, if Tex a was born–again Christian he would tell all. There's been several people who are supposed to be born again of that group & they have not told anything. If they were born again, they'd be telling all, & they're not. That's why I don't believe it. You can believe it if you choose, but I don't‚ because I know Manson, he's an old buddy of mine.

I KNOW WHAT WENT ON & IT WASN'T A MASS KILLING‚ IT WAS A CONTRACT KILLING. Even the police who tried them knew that, but they didn't want to press it in the trial because they didn't think they could get a conviction if they pressed a conspiracy theory behind it. And I talked with the police officers behind it. No, I don't believe it. If Tex was born again & he was in prison, they'd be trying to kill him for one thing.

MANSON RUNS THE PRISONS, NOTHING GOES ON IN THERE THAT HE DOESN'T GIVE THE ORDERS TO, & that's from the very security guards that work there. Well, I don't accept it, I'm sorry, but I came out of that world & I realize ... let me give you this: (See "Carter the Poor Example‚" No.909.)

THEY RECENTLY ASKED ANITA BRYANT WHETHER JIMMY CARTER WAS A CHRISTIAN OR NOT, & this was her answer. I'll use this as an example, & I loved what her answer was. Christians are so gullible & I really appreciate Anita for this, she said, "You're not a Christian because you say you're born again‚ you're a Christian if you have the fruit of the Spirit—does he?" That's the whole question. If the fruit's there, they're Christians. If it's not there, you're going to grow up thorns & not apples, OK? That's all I can tell you. Yes?

(QUESTION REGARDING ROCK MUSIC IN THE CHURCH:) YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JESUS ROCK. I mentioned a church earlier that we spent 8 million dollars in two years to build in Costa Mesa‚ California. They started Jesus Rock music. The reason for the 8 million dollars was to put rock music in churches that did not allow rock music. It's not what's sung on the tune, it's the music.

(QUESTION: CAN A PERSON BE A MEMBER OF A FUNDAMENTAL CHURCH & ACTUALLY BE A WITCH & NOT A CHRISTIAN?) ABSOLUTELY! They've spent millions of dollars putting "plants" in Fundamental churches around the United States. They train them in Christian beliefs. The newest form of blasphemy by a witch towards the Christian God is to sit there & praise the Lord & act like a Christian, laughing the whole time. Absolutely.

THAT'S WHAT REGINA, THE GIRL THAT TOOK MY PLACE DID. Her main thrust was to keep an eye on Jerry Falwell's church while she was Witch Queen of Virginia, & she was so good at it they made her a Grand Druid when I resigned. So there's a lot of it. In fact the church that reached me had four High Priestesses attending the church‚ & had it in a mess until they started finding out what was going on & took a hand & corrected the matter.

THEY HAVE TRIED RECENTLY TO GET WITCHCRAFT‚ THAT'S MAINLY THE OUIJA BOARD & SEANCES, IN MANY CHRISTIAN HIGH SCHOOLS. Because 95% of the people inducted into witchcraft in the last couple of years were inducted by their junior high & high school teachers in the public school system, by teachers that were scholarshipped & funded & put through college, that were coven members just so they could spread witchcraft. And so through many liberal practices at schools, they've been using Christian schools‚ so now they are trying to get in the Christian schools. OK?

(QUESTION ABOUT POLITICS.) I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KEEP TABS ON THAT. The only thing I know about politics is what was happening when I got in, & I try to stay away from politics. I was very politically–minded when I was a witch. I try to stay very Christian-minded & you can't do both. I'll take this one & then I'm going to close. Yes?

(QUESTION: WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT DEMONS BEING AROUND WITCHCRAFT BOOKS; WHY DO YOU CARRY YOUR BOOKS?) What books? (Q: About the Masonic Temple.) Oh, those books aren't the same books. The two books that I have—& I don't have any with me tonight—one is written by Charles Finney who was saved out of the Masons, & another one was the first man executed by the Illuminati for betraying them, Captain Morgan. And this is the reason I carry those two books, because they expose. But I don't believe that a Christian can have books written by witches in their libraries & get away with it, & I don't own any. I burned all mine when I got saved. (End of lecture.)

(The following is a lecture given a different night: )

WE HAD TO REALLY PRAY BEFORE WE COULD MAKE IT TO THE SERVICE TONIGHT, my wife & myself. We've been battling the flu & coughs. We've been pushing & we've opened ourselves up & weakened our bodies down.

LITERALLY WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS TEACH OUT OF A BOOK THAT WE JUST DID FOR CHICK PUBLICATIONS about a month ago which should be seen in your Christian bookstores in about six months. It took 6 or 8 months to do the artwork on it, a book that we could write in about two days, & it's called The Angel of Light.

AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS TAKE THE DEVIL'S SPIRITUAL KINGDOM & HIS PHYSICAL KINGDOM. The reason I want to do it this way is many people, many political organizations, conservative political organizations specifically, find the Illuminati in their journeys. I mean it's kinda' hard if you're going to fool around with politics & history not to see the conspiracy. But they look at this little thing over here, & they see a war is happening‚ or they look over here at this little political movement & they miss the whole picture because they look at it from the outside.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO LOOK AT THE ILLUMINATI FROM THE OUTSIDE UNLESS YOU UNDERSTAND ITS STRUCTURE. Physical minds & computers cannot come up with the Conspiracy as powerful & as direct, as workable, that has hundreds of different little conspiracies off of it, that do not know that it's all one big Conspiracy.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT A SUPERNATURAL DIRECTION. We have a supernatural direction in the Christian Church‚ that's how come the Christian Church grew, we have the Holy Spirit leading us. Well, they have the Prince & Power of the Air. They have Lucifer leading them, & this is something I want to go into.

I WANT TO DESCRIBE HIM & GO INTO HIM IN THE WORD & MY EXPERIENCES‚ & then we're going to go into his physical kingdom, the Illuminati. If you have paper & pencil with you tonight, I recommend that you get it out, because I doubt that you're going to hear the things that you're going to hear here tonight quite like you're going to hear them tonight!

WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU TURN TO EZEKIEL THE 28TH CHAPTER STARTING IN VERSE 11, & we're going to read about 19 Scriptures here tonight in this Chapter. The 28th Chapter of Ezekiel is a prophecy given by Ezekiel who received it of the Lord. The Lord commanded him to give it. He was prophesying unto Satan himself. The prophet of the Lord stood there & prophesied unto Satan.

WE HAVE A CONFUSING PICTURE BECAUSE OF MANY PAINTINGS & MANY SUNDAY SCHOOL STORIES, that are based on tradition about the Devil's fall, & when we got into The Angel of Light we realized how many traditions we were going to shatter. But we had come to a conclusion before we wrote it that unless it said it in the Word—& no reading in between the lines, please—unless it said it directly in the Word we weren't' going to put it down. We were going to put it down in the Word. And then I stood over here & said, well that's exactly the way it was in the occult.—And we matched the two of them up & they matched perfectly.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH ANY TRADITIONS TONIGHT, so if you have a lot of Baptist traditions you're going to get a lot of it shattered tonight between this chapter & the 24th chapter of Matthew, & you're going to walk out of here either a changed person or ready to lynch the pastor & myself! But let's take this tonight & I want the young people to pay attention to this.

THIS IS THE MOST PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF LUCIFER & when you're gone & if you're still listening to the garbage that you call music today, you need to get re-saved. Because this is the Scripture for it, read with me: "Moreover the Word of the Lord came unto me‚ saying..." Now I want to say something here about this chapter.

HE'S PROPHESYING TO THE PRINCE OF TYRUS, & many people believe that this was ... I can't think of this name now‚ but anyway‚ the ruler of Babylon. And if you'll get in Isaiah where it talks about Lucifer the fallen star, before he started prophesying to Lucifer, Isaiah was prophesying to the same ruler. (Isa.14:4.)

THE REASON FOR THIS IS THE PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF THE ILLUMINATI—& the Illuminati didn't even exist in its organized form at that time—it's because there was a ruler, a prince. A power was a ruler, & then there was the king over that prince, so it was the power behind that Earthly ruler. (See "Satan, King of Empires!" ML #961, Vol.8.)

AND THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T LOOKING TODAY & ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO EPHESIANS 6:12 TODAY. They're not looking at things with a supernatural stance behind the physical. While Walter Cronkite or somebody else gets on television & says this is happening‚ you ought to get down on your knees & say, "Lord, what's really happening?"—because it's not the way they're telling it! "Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the King of Tyrus‚ & say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, & perfect in beauty."

THE FIRST THING WE WANT TO POINT OUT ABOUT LUCIFER IS, WHEN HE WAS CREATED HE WAS THE COMPLETE SUM OF ALL BEAUTY & WISDOM. You see, God wasn't created, but never had a created creature ever been created with such beauty & such wisdom, & that was Lucifer, "Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God, every precious stone was thy covering"—& it lists the stones & gold. And on down it lists, "The workmanship of thy tabrets & of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created."—He was created with musical instruments imbedded in his body, that's how he was created!

YOU SEE‚ LUCIFER IS TRYING TO BE A GOD IN THIS PROPHECY, & we'll go on in it. He's trying to be a god, he's trying to be as great as God. He's trying to build a kingdom in the sides of the mountain of the North & so on, & it's a description of God's Kingdom. He knows that music was created for God‚ dance was created for God. He knows that if he is going to be a god he is going to have to have music.

YOU CAN'T BE A GOD WITHOUT MUSICAL WORSHIP, SO HE HAS CREATED HIS OWN MUSIC. It's not just Rock, I get sick of people saying just Rock. I'm down on all music except the music that is created for the Lord. The reason I'm particularly down on Country & Western, & if you ever listen to it‚ it's worse that Rock! It's more about lust, it's more about drinking, it's more about fighting than any other thing, & recently it's even begun to be about witchcraft.

SEE, WITCHES DON'T SAY "WITCHCRAFT" & THEY DON'T SAY "WITCHES," THEY SAY "PRACTICERS" or something like this, & they say "the force," for those who've been to "Star Wars." They say "the force," so they describe him as "the force." Now Tom C. Hall has come out with a song called, "The Force," & the music is the background music for witchcraft ceremonies‚ it's his music to the words of that song.

AND IN "STAR WARS"—WHICH IS THE BIGGEST THING THAT WITCHCRAFT HAS EVER DONE TO SPREAD ITS DOCTRINE—in "Star Wars" & in this song they say‚ "And may the force be with you till we're apart." This is almost identical to what witches say when they greet & part, so it's not by accident, People, nothing is by accident anymore. If I can get anything across to you tonight, you're going to walk out of here saying there's nothing that happens by accident.

"THOU ART THE ANOINTED CHERUB THAT COVERETH"—HE COVERED GOD'S THRONE, he was the chosen cherub. Now one of the traditions about Lucifer is that he was one of three archangels. Quickly, can anybody find a Scripture for that in the Bible?—It doesn't exist! That's a tradition. That's the problem, you've got too many traditions! He was a cherub‚ he wasn't an archangel, there's a difference. The Jews go in much more deeply than we do on angels, they still believe in the angels instead of believing in the Holy Spirit.

BUT I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE DEVIL'S KINGDOM SUPERNATURALLY IS SET UP TO COUNTERFEIT GOD'S, & HE HAS SEVEN PRINCIPALITIES. He has set his spiritual kingdom up identical with God's Kingdom & there are seven—he wasn't one of them. A third of the angels rebelled with him, yes, that's in Revelation that happens, but that doesn't mean he was one of the three archangels. That's just our way of thinking. (Rev.12:3,4.)

THE CHOSEN CHERUB‚ "THE ANOINTED CHERUB THAT COVERETH; & I have set thee so; thou wast upon the holy mountain of God: thou hast walked up & down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created till iniquity was found in thee." He was perfect till then. "By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, & thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God."

NOW WHAT IS THE LORD SAYING HERE? "I WILL CAST THEE OUT." If you think that Lucifer is locked out of Heaven, I suggest you go back & read the first Chapter of Job all over again, & then go read Revelation. Revelation isn't a history book, it's a prophecy book‚ & in there we find he'll get cast out. The Devil's walking here, this is his domain. He's our accuser, that's what Satan means, "accuser." He stands before the Throne of God constantly accusing us. I'll let you study this later, because I want to go on, but on & on it describes him.

THE MAIN THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS HOW HE LOOKS. So in the sketch we drew for the artists for The Angel of Light, we drew him as the covering angel before God's Throne, covered with jewels. And when God's light shone through him it was like a prism‚ it changed the colors to where they come out, & colors are extremely important to the Devil. Everything he does is in colors, without them, nothing happens. It's like Jeane Dixon sees blue serpents‚ & we're going to go into that tonight.

ANYWAY, EARLIER TODAY I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN I'VE SEEN LUCIFER. I don't know why it's so astounding to Christians that somebody should see the Devil, but I suggest this to you: fight him really hard & I can guarantee he'll show up in your life. He'll pay you a visit & say hi!—No, I'm serious, I really am, it's not a joke. If you start fighting the Devil, if he doesn't show up—which is doubtful that he would—he will send somebody to imitate him & pay you a visit.

THE PASTOR & HIS WIFE WERE TELLING ME TONIGHT OF A VISIT THAT THEY'VE HAD. Will you confirm this visit, Pastor? Absolutely! It was a very spooky one‚ wasn't it, Sister? But because they did not fear, he had to leave. Now I want to say something to you very quickly while we're on the supernatural part of the Devil. The Devil can only interfere in a Christian's life through several things, he can only come in your home for this reason:

IF YOU FEAR HIM HE CAN COME IN BECAUSE YOU HAVE WORSHIPPED HIM, SO DON'T FEAR HIM! If you own something that belongs to him, such as the jewelry we described in Sunday School this morning; or such as books on the occult, or books on astrology which is the occult; or such as writings that are supposed to be best sellers, but come on people, they're loaded with stuff that Larry Flynt would love to put in his magazine!—Best sellers that are just descriptions for pornography books so Doubleday can make an extra buck!

AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER THINGS SUCH AS THINGS OR BELONGINGS THAT ACTUALITY WERE CREATED BY THE DEVIL SUCH AS ROCK MUSIC. Now I want to specify this, I am down on this because I am an ex-witch. Without it witches don't function. I dropped this out of my testimony this morning‚ I should have given it. One of the things that I was supposed to be was the head of this Brenner Enterprises in Texas which explains to the IRS why I was making all this money.

IT WAS A LOT OF MONEY & ONE OF THE COMPANIES I WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE OWNED WAS CALLED ZODIAC PRODUCTIONS.—The name gives it away. It was a booking agency in Texas; it's changed its name, but it's still the largest booking agency in the U.S. for Rock groups. It was the group that was originally responsible for bringing the Beatles to the U.S. I got to meet most of the groups.

THE BEATLES WERE ALREADY APART WHEN I WAS THERE, BUT I GOT TO MEET SEVERAL OF THEM OFF & ON‚ & I met almost all of the groups that were in existence then, & a lot that are in existence now. I only found about this many (holds up a few fingers) that weren't occultists, that didn't confess when they were alone that their music came from "supernatural forces" as they would put it.

SO I WANT TO TELL THE TEENAGERS & THE PARENTS SOMETHING REAL QUICK BEFORE I GO ON: When witches do a book, they do a spell over the manuscript & they command demons which are under their authority to enter every manuscript that comes off the press, every copy of that book. So when you buy that book you get a little free gift, like when you open a little Cracker Jacks box & there's a little trinket in there. Well, you get a free demon, free of charge.

WELL, MOST OF THE ROCK GROUPS DO THE SAME THING, & I know, I've talked to one just recently—David Crosby of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young that used to exist & is getting back together—& he told me this is why his records & others' records zoomed to the charts. Many people tell me they do this so their records will be best sellers‚ & you get free of charge your own private demon.

SO PARENTS, IF YOU'RE COMPROMIZING WITH YOUR KIDS to keep them from running away from home, you are responsible for that article in the home because you're the head of the house. (Audience: Amen, preach it, Brother!) Now this is an ex–witch talkin' who knows about demons, so you better pay attention!!

MAYBE THAT'S WHY YOUR FINANCES ARE MESSED UP! Maybe that's why your kids & you are sick once in a while & you shouldn't be. The preacher asked me how much credit do I give the Devil for sickness? I said, "All of it, lock, stock & barrel!" Now let's go on or I'll be on that all night.

ANYWAY‚ I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING REAL QUICK: THERE ARE SEVEN PRINCIPALITIES IN THE DEVIL'S KINGDOM. The way it's set up, there's Satan & then there's Beelzebub. I know a lot of Christians thought that was another title for Satan, but that's his prince. That would have been his position to God, that would have been his chosen angel. Under that are the seven principalities, & under the principalities are the powers, & under the powers, billions of demons. I just praise the Lord that the pit's locked & that most of them are there. But there's still millions running around.

BUT ANYWAYS, THE SEVEN PRINCIPALITIES ARE AS FOLLOWS: REGE, WHICH IS THE PRINCIPALITY OF THE OCCULT & many things that are under the occult. And this is for the young people; witches know the difference between witchcraft & Sorcery. That's why I don't like the modern translations of the Bible, because they list witchcraft as Sorcery.

SORCERY IS THE USE OF CERTAIN DRUGS THAT ARE ACTUALLY OCCULT DRUGS. There's a difference. Timothy Leary, when he wrote his book on LSD said, "You're not hallucinating when you take acid. Acid is blocking the physical senses out so that you can see a supernatural World!"—And since God doesn't use LSD, that only leaves one supernatural World left! And most people that have been on LSD for a long time will tell you‚ "I wasn't hallucinating when I saw that!"

NOW THIS IS WHY WE ASK MANY PEOPLE IF THEY'VE BEEN IN THE OCCULT & IF THEY'VE SAID NO, THEN WE'LL STOP & SAY, "BUT YOU'VE BEEN ON ACID‚ or you've been on coke, or you've been on a strong form of hashish of or you've been on speed!"—Something that's classified as a hallucinogenic. That's a sorcery drug. The word "sorcery" comes from the word that we receive "pharmacist" from meaning the dispenser of drugs. In this case, sorcery means the use of drugs for occult purposes. Now there's other things that are in this, of course, there's witchcraft & all this.

THE NEXT ONE IS LAZERS. I was going to put all of this on the board but I decided to go through it real quick so I can use the board for other things. Lazers is sexual lust, & that says it right there. You want to know all the things that are under Rege?—Everything that's in the 18th Chapter of Deuteronomy is under Rege.

ONE THING I USUALLY WARN CHRISTIANS ABOUT IS THIS CUTE LITTLE GAME GOING AROUND the Christian church that when a woman is pregnant with a child, somebody will get a button or a ring or a medallion of some type & swing it over their hand & say, "Let's see if you're going to have a girl or a boy."—That's called divination, fortune telling.

IF THAT WOMAN OR MAN THAT WAS DOING THAT CUTE LITTLE TRICK, THAT OLD WIVES TALE, were caught doing that in Israel, they'd take her out & stone him or her to death‚ & the person that was allowing it to be done! Today we're under grace, praise the Lord for that, or I wouldn't be here, but I'm telling you it's that serious! We could go into the demonic reasons for it, but you might gain troubles from it by allowing it to happen.

NEXT AFTER LAZERS, AFTER LUST, IS BACCHUS. I don't have the spelling on it, good luck. I'm sorry I didn't put everything on the board but I left my notes back in Ohio. Bacchus was even an old Roman god. A couple other of these principalities had gods named after them in different pagan countries during pagan times.

BACCHUS WAS THE ROMAN GOD OF WINE, IS PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT HE WAS, & HE IS THE PRINCIPALITY OF ADDICTION. Now I've seen many people who shouldn't be doing deliverance because they don't know what they're doing‚ calling demons of nicotine out, demons of alcoholism, & the demon's standing there laughing at them because there's no such creature!

BUT THERE IS A DEMON OF ADDICTION, & THE REASON I SPECIFY THIS IS THAT HE DOESN'T CARE WHAT YOU FEED HIM‚ just as long as you're addicted to it. That can be food & caffeine as well as alcohol, cigarettes & drugs. Now food & caffeine are not bad except when you've got to have it & you use it as a solution to your problems.

TAKE FOR EXAMPLE A WOMAN IN A LIBERAL CHURCH, SHE HAD PROBLEMS & SHE DOESN'T GO TO THE LORD, SHE'LL GO TO HER LIQUOR CABINET & her pack of Marlboros—as she's hooked on both—or taking her prescribed barbiturates from the doctor. Now over in the Fundamental church this isn't allowed, except maybe the prescribed prescription from the doctor. And she'll go where? Does anybody know?

IF SHE HAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS, WHERE DOES SHE RUN TO IF SHE DOESN'T RUN TO THE LORD? What does she do if she gets nervous?—She eats! How many people get up in the morning & have got to have ... now I'm talking about having a cup of coffee to pop the ol' peepers up, "I gotta have my cup of coffee!—I'm gonna die if I don't have my cup of coffee!" Come on‚ you've seen it!! An 8-pack of Pepsi in three hours, 16 cans of Dr. Pepper a day! Come on!

YOU TALK ABOUT ALCOHOLICS, WE'VE GOT SOME CAFFEINE ADDICTS AROUND HERE! There's a difference between drinking it because you like it, & don't kid me!! It's like the guy putting the cigarette down & saying, "Oh well, I could quit any time, I just like to do it." "Yeah, I could quit drinking 26 cups of coffee a day, but I just enjoy coffee!"—Then go to Sanka!—If you can stand the withdrawals! Come on, you know what I mean! It's the same demon! He does not care.

TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, I MENTIONED TEEN CHALLENGE TODAY. Teen Challenge will not accept anybody from the occult because they don't cast out demons & they can't handle them.—That's why they don't get much success with drugs anymore because since Dave Wilkerson got rid of exorcism, Teen Challenge dropped out of it, they don't do deliverance. So therefore the people come in, they get them off of cigarettes, they get them off of drugs, but they come out weighing 200 or 300 pounds & 26 cups of coffee a day & they've got the same demons!

THEY'RE FEEDING THE SAME DEMONS BUT THEY'RE GIVING THEM A NEW DIET! Can somebody tell me, amen? You understand what I'm trying to say? Oh, you understand? OK! Next after that is Pan. If you know Shakespeare, Pan says, "What fools these mortals be"—it kind of gives him away.

PAN IS THE PRINCIPALITY OF THE MIND. THIS IS THE DEVIL'S FAVOURITE PLAYGROUND. When you say sanctify the spirit, soul & body, this is the soul, the mind. Now‚ to give you an example, we run into Pan more than any other demon. Now we don't use names, but I'm giving you the names anyway, we just use categories in deliverance.

WE RUN INTO HIM BECAUSE OF THE DEMON OF REJECTION THAT HE IS OVER. And this is the base for everybody that has sexual problems, & the base where everybody has drug problems, & the base for everybody that has occult problems. Because they pick this demon up when they're a child‚ sometimes before they're even born, & they carry this thing that opens them up to other demons, trying to feed & fulfil the demon that's driving them from within. If you've ever seen a person with the spirit of rejection you'll know what I mean.

AND HE'S ALSO OVER NEURALGIA, DEPRESSION, SUICIDE, SCHIZOPHRENIA, PARANOIA, ALL THE MENTAL ILLNESSES. This is why people with rejection problems have deep depression‚ they try & kill themselves, they're nervous all the time, they all tie together‚ people! The next one after it is Set, & this will answer the Pastor's question he had about sickness.

SET IS THE PRINCIPALITY OF DEATH. He was the Egyptian god of the underworld, the same thing. Set is over all sicknesses, in fact there're 39 major illnesses—that's what the physicians say today—& the occult credits him with 39 powers, 39 little sub–groups. And it's interesting that it's believed that Christ took 39 stripes for our healing. (Ed: Amen!)

HOW MANY HAVE I GOT NOW? FIVE? I KNOW WHAT THE 7TH IS BUT I WANT TO LEAVE IT TILL THE 7TH. Okay, I've got Lazers, Rege, Bacchus, Set, Pan. I can't think of what the other one is. I'm trying to think of the category that's missing. Sheila, help! We don't have our notes with us! I'm gonna skip it, I'll come back to it.

THE SEVENTH ONE DOES NOT HAVE A NAME BECAUSE WITCHES DON'T USE IT. You see, witches will call these others up & will send them out or have them command demons to go out. They don't use this one. They call it a Christian principality. Remember I said earlier this morning there's no such thing as an undedicated witch; I had to get saved before I found undedicated people in religion! Now this is the reason why:

IT'S CALLED THE PRINCIPALITY OF CONTENTMENT. You come to church, you might even come to Sunday nights‚ & if you're good you might even show up at prayer meeting on Wednesday‚ but that's if you have a few problems during the week & you need a religious fix. Come on, People, this is the reason. This is why churches don't grow‚ they don't have bus programs, they don't grow, they don't go out & canvas.

THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU COME TOGETHER FOR A WITNESSING NIGHT, YOU MIGHT GET 8 PEOPLE OUT OF 300 TO SHOW UP, because of this. I've walked into churches like that Calvary Chapel down in Costa Mesa with 3,000 young people.—You come back three months later & you've got 3,000 different young people! That's because they either backslid or went to a Bible–believing church so they could grow!

YOU CAN FEEL THE POWER, THE PRINCIPALITY IN THE AIR OF CONTENTMENT. When you walk through the door‚ you can suffocate!—That is if you came out of what I came out of & you know what they feel like. Anyway, I'm still trying to think of the last one. Oh boy, I'll probably remember it when the service is over. OK, let's go on to the physical kingdom.

OH, SOMEBODY ASKED ME EARLIER TODAY WHEN I WAS IN SUNDAY SCHOOL DESCRIBING LUCIFER—he must not want this to come out—about when he appeared. He did appear physical, & this might shock a few people. I've seen him sit down at tables at meals. I've seen him even have sexual relationships with women at witchcraft meetings‚ at higher meetings. In fact, the girl that took my place whose witch name is Regina, it means "the bride of Lucifer." Now the witches believe it too!

HE APPEARED ABOUT SEVEN FEET TALL, USUALLY CLOTHED IN DEEP PURPLE.—Sometimes clothed in red, sometimes clothed in gold—purple & gold. The only time I've seen him clothed in anything else was about six hours after I got saved. He showed up as Satan—that was a shock—& he was clothed in black‚ but he still appeared the same. About seven feet tall, & I'd have to say not just handsome, but beautiful.

JET BLACK HAIR, SNOW WHITE SKIN, & THE COLOUR OF HIS EYES, INSTEAD OF BLUE, BROWN OR WHATEVER, WERE A DEEP VIOLET‚ almost deep purple. And when you looked in them, it was like looking down into the Grand Canyon. It's just bottomless, this power! And believe me, if he ever appeared to you, you'd know you were in his presence.

NOW I WANT TO GO ON TO THE PHYSICAL KINGDOM, THE ILLUMINATI. For those of you who were maybe not around this morning, the Illuminati means "The Light Bearers." Call it Great Conspiracy, call it what it's called today‚ "Moriah," which means "The Conquering Wind"; call it the CFR, which is its political name to this country; call it anything you want to call it‚ it's still the Illuminati, & I want to give some quick history about the Illuminati here. (Ed: Mt. Moriah‚ Jewish Temple, location of the AC Image!)

ITS OFFICIAL BIRTHDAY IS MAY 1, 1776—RECOGNIZE THE YEAR, PEOPLE? That's its official birthday. It existed about five to six years before, but that's it official birthdate. May 1st you have, the Communists have it, but all these countries that have ties with the Illuminati, May 1st is the most holiest day because it is Beltane to the witches, & Beltane is New Years Day, & all things begin on Beltane.

IT'S THE DAY THAT LUCIFER COMES BACK FROM THE UNDERWORLD & DWELLS IN THE SKIES ABOVE, ACCORDING TO THE WITCHES. Now I don't believe that doctrine now‚ but that's the doctrine we believed then. They spent between Halloween & Beltane under the Earth & came back in the summer months. That's how come the seasons change & all that good stuff. In other words, witchcraft is paganism.. All the witches call themselves pagans because they believe in the old pagan religions, which means "pre-Christian religion".

NOW, THIS IS THE STRUCTURE. The reason I've left the other blocks out, there's actually three pyramids, each one bigger than the next, but this is on all of them, the Capstone. Now I want to explain the Illuminati with these pyramids so there's so confusion.

THE FIRST PYRAMID IS "ORGANIZATION‚" not financial, not political, Organization. You'll find the Masons here, that's one of the originals. You'll find the Grand Lodges of the Orient, which is where the Illuminati started. You'll find the Scottish Rites, the York Rites‚ the Oddfellows, the Jaycees—any organization that is secret, that has an inner group besides the outer group, you will find there, as long as it's not directly occultism.

THE NATURES ARE IN DOCTRINE, & MOST MEMBERS DON'T KNOW THAT THE WITCHES BELIEVE & DO THE SAME THINGS THAT THEY DO. In fact, I think the Masons would be shocked to look at a drawing, a blueprint of the Golden Dawn Temple—which is the Rothschild's private coven in London—& see that all Mason's temples are based upon that blueprint. They would be shocked to read that the Rothschilds do the same rites that the Masons do. You might tell a few Masons that, I may have just told a few of them that!

UP HERE YOU'LL ALSO FIND B'NAI B'RITH‚ A VERY VERY POWERFUL ILLUMINATI ORGANISATION. They couldn't be doing what they're doing today without B'nai B'rith. You'll find the American Civil Liberties Union, you'll also find a new one that was created off of it by the man that is actually the brains of the Illuminati today, Isaac Bonovitz. (Ed: B'nai B'rith: Jewish laymen's organization. Encarta 98 says that it is the world's largest Jewish organization, has a membership of about 500,000 in 51 countries.)

WHAT MR. BONOVITZ CREATED IS CALLED THE AQUARIAN ANTI–DEFAMATION LEAGUE. You may not feel it much out on the East Coast yet, but out on the West Coast the Christians have already felt it. It's won Federal suit after Federal suit of any Christian church touching witchcraft, of any Christian church taking the occult on.—And that's exactly what it is, it's the anti-defamation league to the Occult. (Ed: The Anti-Defamation League is a militant Jewish organization which also attacks anyone who criticizes the Jews or Israel, accusing them of "anti-Semitism.")

AT THE TOP OF EVERY PYRAMID YOU WILL FIND 500—THE 500 IS THE WORLD BANKING SYSTEM. It's a counsel of the 500 richest people in the World, & it's been in existence for hundreds of years. Some of the people on it today are David Rockefeller‚ Nelson Rockefeller‚ Phillip & Edward Rothschild—in fact all the Rothschilds; Queen Juliana & her husband. All the delegates from the Arab countries that own all your oil that doesn't exist ... Hmmmm.

THE NEXT IS THE COUNCIL OF 33, THE 33 HIGHEST MASONS IN THE WORLD. After that is the Council of 13‚ the Grand Druid Council, this is what I sat on. After that there's a Capstone, the Rothschild's Tribunal—Edward, Phillip & Richard are the ones that are sitting up on the Rothschild's Tribunal now. It's believed that Richard is the third one, in other words‚ we aren't sure who the third one is. In it is the leader of the Illuminati: the all-seeing eye, Lucifer!

NOW HAVE ANY OF YOU BEEN NOTICING THE NEWS LATELY & they'll be talking about the stock market or the deflation of the dollar or something‚ & they'll show this pyramid & capstone from the back of the dollar bill? Have you been noticing the eye on it lately? The whole thing will be green & they'll make the eye blue with a big glare coming out of it, & the eye's twice as big as it normally is!

BECAUSE THE T.V. USES WITCHCRAFT SYMBOLS. Now see, you don't know witch language. They have their own witch language, symbols that you see everyday throughout the World that witches understand. They put these symbols on their store names. They create their store names, because the witch language & witch symbols are for witches who are going by there. witches know who owns them, they know the Illuminati owns them.

I GUARANTEE, PEOPLE, THAT YOU PROBABLY SHOP WITH SATAN. You probably shop at ten stores including the gas situation, grocery store, department store & so on‚ & nine of them probably belong to the Illuminati. To give you an example, Federal Department Stores is the biggest department store chain in the World. One of their leading members, Lazarus, is the biggest stockholder. They own Gold Circle‚ they own K-Mart which is Kresge's, they own Lazarus, they own Federal Department Stores, I know a bunch of them in Baltimore‚ I forget all of them.

THEY OWN THEM THROUGHOUT THE U.S. I think Penny's is about the only one that they don't own. Sears belongs to the Illuminati, Montgomery Wards belongs to Mobile Oil which belongs to the Illuminati. There isn't one oil company that you can buy your gasoline at today that's not owned 100% by Illuminati stockholders. Shell was the last to go when they went down. Interesting that that's one of the things that's bringing us to our knees.

NOW I WANT TO GIVE SOME THINGS THAT ARE GONNA HAPPEN. I invite you to go home & research the 24th Chapter of Matthew if you are of the opinion that you are going to be raptured out of here without anything at all happening to you. Pastor, for their benefit, do you agree with this? (Pastor: Yes, I believe that a lot's going to happen before it.) It's going to get a lot worse.

NOW I WANT TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE IN THE RAPTURE & I BELIEVE IN THE TRIBULATION & I believe that hundreds of thousands of Christians are going to die within a few years.—Because they didn't read the Word of God which warned us in advance that it was going to be the way it is going to be, & they listened to preachers that told them & patted them on the back. Are you familiar with Jeremiah?—If not, I invite you to read it.

JEREMIAH STOOD UP AS A PROPHET OF GOD & WARNED THE CITY TIME & TIME AGAIN UNTIL DESTRUCTION WAS UPON THEM, & they threw him in a pit because the rest of the prophets of the temple stood up & said‚ "No‚ it's all going to be all right. It ain't gonna come because God's gonna save us!"—But God didn't say it. He said‚ "I'm gonna tear this city apart!"

NOW IN THE 24TH CHAPTER OF MATTHEW HE SAID THAT THE TIME WAS COMING—NOW THIS IS JESUS' OWN WORDS—the time was coming that would be so bad that you wouldn't be able to stop & go back in your house & pick up a coat! He even said pray that when you run—that's exactly what it said, flee, run as fast as you can, flee—& pray that it doesn't happen in the Wintertime. Wow, would people run, & what did I say, I'd be spinnin' my tracks!

EUROPE HAS ALREADY BEEN PREPARED FOR THIS FOR YEARS, & across the U.S. people are waking up that are Christians & are preparing for a space of time. I believe it's going to be kind of short because it's gonna be so bad that it couldn't be long, nobody would live if it was long. It's gonna be short but to the point.

NOW A PLAN OF WORLD RULE WILL NEVER TAKE EFFECT IF YOU ARE INDEPENDENT OF THAT WORLD RULE. The only reason that the "mark of the beast"—that's what many Christians call it, or a tag of being one of the group that's buying & selling & so on—the only reason that would work is if you had to buy. If you don't have to buy, what good will it do you?

EVERYTHING SINCE JIMMY CARTER GOT IN THAT HE HAS DONE HAS BEEN TO SET IT UP SO YOU WILL NOT BE INDEPENDENT OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT or any government that will exist later. You must function within them for every bite of food & every drop of gasoline‚ is the major plan. And that's why—it's what's hit them back—it hasn't come into effect yet. In fact the Gun Law, which was one of the most important steps, was to have been in a year ago. That's the only measure that they're behind on.

I MET A MAN FROM THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION (NRA) that without them being Christians I sure can appreciate some of the things they've done that I've seen from behind the scenes. Martin Iegues was Jimmy Carter's campaign manager who is the head of the National Gun Control Center in Atlanta, Georgia‚ which is the organization whose purpose it is to take every hand gun, every rifle, every shotgun out of every home in the U.S.

NOW THIS MAY NOT SEEM VERY IMPORTANT, & I AM AMAZED AT HOW MANY CHRISTIANS SEEM TO THINK THAT BEING A CHRISTIAN MEANS THAT YOU SHOULD BE AGAINST GUNS. How many of you think that, seriously?—That if you're a Christian you should be against guns, that guns are evil? I've got news for you: the Illuminati is so scared of every private-owned gun that it's unbelievable! It's the only threat to them.

THE ONLY THREAT TO THEM RIGHT NOW OF THEIR PLANS IS YOUR PRIVATELY-OWNED GUNS. Now I asked the Pastor if I could just throw in these things, & I have, & I'm going to give them to you, & if you were afraid this morning‚ I pray that you won't get afraid now! Lord help them.

THAT TIMETABLE THAT I SAW SAID WHEN CHARLES MANSON IS RELEASED THAT WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF HIS RELEASE THEY WERE TO START "HELTER SKELTER." I've got a feeling I'm gonna get back on rock music now. The Beatles are classified in the occult world as the four major prophets. That's right, there's more to the Beatles than meets the eye. Their White Double Album ... now this'll mean nothing to a lot of you, & a lot to the young people. Their White Double Album is considered to be the Book of Revelation to witches. That's right. That & a book called Atlas Shrugs.

NOW IN IT IS A SONG CALLED "HELTER SKELTER." You should listen to that song, I used to have a lot of drug friends get together & say, "I wonder what that means?"—Witches knew what it meant‚ it was part of witch language. It meant a time when the pit would be opened & the demons would be set free & the World would become insane in less than a 24-hour period & they'd be killing everybody—their next door neighbors, their kids, their wife, everything! The World would just completely go mass insane overnight.

NOW MANSON IS NOT JUST A MASS MURDERER THAT GOT SENT TO JAIL. Take my word for it, if you don't take anything else, please take my word for it. Manson would have never gone to jail had he not been told that that was where he was supposed to go. If the Illuminati would've wanted to keep him out‚ he would've never gone to jail. They need him, so they let him get convicted.

MANSON WENT TO JAIL BECAUSE IN THE SEVEN YEARS THAT HE'S BEEN IN HE HAS ORGANIZED FROM HIS JAIL CELL EVERY PRISON ACROSS THE U.S. Now we've talked to prison officials, & prisoners walk around in prisons saluting each other & say, "Helter Skelter's our salvation! Pray Helter Skelter will come! Helter Skelter will release us!" They're waiting for a time when the World will go completely insane & they'll flood out of the prisons & they firmly believe—it's not going to happen but they firmly believe it—that they will take over this country.

NOW, FROM TALKING TO BIKERS—BIKERS MEANING PEOPLE THAT BELONG TO ILLEGAL MOTORCYCLE CLUBS LIKE THE HELLS ANGELS, the Outlaws, the Pagans & so on—they have stopped fighting amongst themselves, people. They have stopped killing each other anymore. You could get in a Bike War & 200 people could lay dead in the street in no time at all. You never heard about it because they got rid of all the bodies & got rid of all the guns & so on. But Bike Wars went on like this all the time out in the country.

THEY STOPPED FIGHTING, THEY DON'T BLOW UP EACH OTHER'S CLUB HOUSES ANYMORE, they don't shoot each other's wives & this type of thing, they've quit fighting. They've won, they're brothers for the first time‚ & their leader is Manson. He did this to the Hells Angels when he was in prison there, that's why he's still there. He'll be out.

THEY HAVEN'T LET HIM OUT YET BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT READY FOR HIM. The moment they get the gun controls measures down & another law called the Anti–Hoarding act, which will be coming up next year which will say you'll go to Federal Penitentiary if you stockpile food, if you stockpile ammunition & guns, if you stockpile medical supplies, if you stockpile gasoline‚ you're gonna go to jail if they find out about it.

YOU SEE THE FARMER'S STRIKE & THESE ACCIDENTAL GRAIN FIRES THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING LATELY? People, come on, four of them?! There was one I heard on the news last night driving into Des Moines, several of the largest grain dealers around up in smoke! If you want to believe that‚ you go ahead & believe it, I believe it's set. They're cutting the food down.

YOU DON'T FEEL IT YET, BUT WAIT TILL YOU GO TO THE STORE & TRY & BUY A HEAD OF LETTUCE & THERE'S NO LETTUCE. That farmer's strike is really good for the farmers & I'm glad the farmers want to get some more money, but the Illuminati always uses people‚ & the people who started that farmer's strike were the closest friends of Jimmy Carter in Georgia. His own sister is one of the leaders of it, not Ruth, the other one.

IT'S SO YOU WILL HAVE TO DEPEND UPON THE GOVERNMENT'S SURPLUS FOOD TO EAT, & you're not going to get it without a Government Card. We'll talk about that cared in a minute, in fact we'll talk about it now. Anybody here recently within the last three years been in Europe, travelling through the Holy Land or anything, anybody? Shucks. This is the reason I asked you that.

HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW ABOUT THE TEN TOES OF DANIEL, THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE? The iron was still there, it was only mixed with clay. Now, when the Common Market was first formed there were ten, & Norway dropped out. The reason, Norway was not part of the original Roman Empire, & God's Word said it had to be part. About three months ago Greece said, "We will join you!"—they were the missing country.

NOW WHEN YOU GO OVER THERE & YOU BUY SOMETHING‚ LIKE SHOES MADE IN ITALY OR CLOTHING THAT'S MADE BY THE EUROPEAN COMMON MARKET, there's a good 85% chance that you'll see this emblem on it. Anybody know what it is?—666, called the three-tailed comet. Now this same mark appears in more places. If you look back‚ when Richard Nixon was in, our country decided it was going to buy a lot of World currency to be distributed in 1980 or thereabouts.

SINCE THEN THEY'VE DECIDED IT'S BETTER TO GO TO A CREDIT CARD. In other words, paperless money & so on, where you never handle the money. But when it was bought, this was on all the World common currency. Besides that, Jimmy Carter has decided that every red-blooded American who is really a red–blooded American, & I'm blood red, I'm an American, will own a security card to prove they're an honest American.

NOW, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN IN A NEW DEPARTMENT STORE & HAVE SEEN THE FANCY CASH REGISTERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY COMPUTER BANKS? There's a slot that they run cards through. They've even done it with the phones now where you can call by running a card through, a credit card. The reason is that you're going to have to have this magnetic security card, & this is on it. It's on it, People, pay attention, it's on it! If you get Revelations, you get the meaning.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUY‚ you're not going to pay another payment on your home, on your car, you're not going to get any gasoline in your car, you're not going to get the Pampers for your baby, you're not going to get any bread & milk & hamburger at the store, you're not going to run down to Ponderosa or whatever they've got on the East Coast & buy a steak. It's gonna cease!

AND THE U.S. HAS GOT A BAD PROBLEM, IT'S CALLED "THE CORNER STORE COMPLEX." You know, at 10 o'clock at night you run down to the corner store & pick up a 6-pack of Pepsi—I hope it's Pepsi & not Coors! Come on, when there's the least little thing that we want, we run down & get it. What happens when you're not allowed to buy gasoline but you've got this card?—You say‚ "Well‚ I'll take the card, but when they tell me I have to have a tattoo, I'll quit it." Huh!

IF YOU TAKE THE CARD, YOU'VE DONE TAKEN IT! That's all you need. People, pay attention to me! This card is scheduled to come out in a year–&-a-half, & the computer bank is already set for it in Dallas.

THE NICKNAME OF THE TALKING COMPUTER IN DALLAS IS NICKNAMED AFTER ITS BROTHER COMPUTER IN AMSTERDAM, "THE BEAST." We talked to member of the National Guard in California & they've changed their patch. He told me that in less than a year, Carter will have every National Guard in every State wearing this patch, & they're all hooked into the security computer called "the Beast." We're being set up.

NOW WHEN MANSON GETS OUT & "HELTER SKELTER" STARTS‚ IN THE FIRST YEAR, ONE MILLIONS U.S. CITIZENS ARE MARKED FOR DEATH. Now my question is, are you going to be one of them? Are you going to stay around & be one of them? I'm not going to be one of them. I've been running around for five years with people shooting at me, I've become an expert at it! Now listen to me, I've told your Pastor what to do‚ Pastor Berry, Dr. Rasmussen & others across the country, this isn't just John Todd, I'm doing something about it. Joe Boyd has been doing something about it for 20 years.

WHAT YOU BETTER START DOING ABOUT IT, PEOPLE‚ IS YOU BETTER START PUTTING A LITTLE FOOD BACK FOR YOUR FAMILY. I invite you to do a little experiment. Go home tonight & tomorrow get out a paper & pencil, housewives, & take all the food out of your refrigerator & your freezer & your cabinets & add it up in meals. I don't mean survival meals, I mean meals that you can work off for every member of your family.

FIND OUT HOW MUCH FOOD, IF YOU COULDN'T GET ANY TOMORROW, YOU WOULD HAVE IN YOUR HOME. Well‚ you're going to get a little bit of a warning because the Illuminati is going to try something. They're gonna try several little practices first. There's a huge Teamster's strike coming that's going to cut the food going into the cities. I don't mean a strike that's going to last a few days, I mean nothing is going to move!

NOTHING IS GOING TO MOVE, THE RAILWAYS ARE GOING TO GO ON STRIKE AT THE SAME TIME & SO ARE SPECIFIC AIRLINES. The Longshoremen are going to go on strike so nothing comes off the ships. In others words, nothing is going to move. Now you ought to go off to your grocery store, because if this happens, how soon would you die on your feet? Most cities will tell you within two weeks everybody would be starving. That's all the food there is in their storehouses.

THERE WAS A BOOK RELEASED 12 YEARS AGO CALLED ATLAS SHRUGS. It was a novel, supposedly, written by one of Phillip Rothschild's girlfriends at his instructions. It is a coded book for witches that tells how they are to gain control of the World. In this book there is sort of a parable about New York City, New York City is more or less the World.

THEY CLOSE BY SAYING, "WE HAVE WON WHEN THE LIGHTS GO OUT IN NEW YORK CITY!"—& I don't mean the power failure, people, either. They'll shut down all the trucks leaving, all the ships coming in, they'll shut all the planes coming down. When everything was shut down‚ then the lights went out for good.

WHEN THE BOOK WAS DONE, THE READER OF THE BOOK TAKES HIS HAND & LIFTS IT UP & DRAWS THE DOLLAR SIGN IN THE AIR. I'm going to draw this familiar sign of the dollar. It's a witchcraft symbol that means "to control & to scourge." It's 8,000 years old, people, & it was never of the dollar sign until we thought it was the dollar sign. Isaac Bonovitz says that "through this symbol we will now rule & control the World." & the book ends.

NOW IN THE BOOK‚ ALL THE WAY THROUGH, BUSINESSMEN THAT BELONG TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS PURPOSELY BANKRUPT OR DESTROY THEIR BUSINESSES so there aren't any businesses, & they drive the others out of business. And all the way through they use the battle plan called "the presence from below & the presence from above." Anybody that's studied Communism knows the same plan. That means the Devil must destroy all the regulations‚ & the bankers do it this way, & guess who's in the middle, people?—Us! That's what's coming.

NOW I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER FOR QUESTIONS & ANSWERS, & I hope you've got a few. If I've got them I'll give you the answers. But if I don't have them, I may not give you the answer you want but I'll give you the facts. So if you have a question, you better ask it.

(QUESTION: ARE THERE ANY CHRISTIAN BOOKS THAT ARE FACTUAL ON WITCHCRAFT?) I'm sorry to say there are no Christian books that are factual on witchcraft, except The Broken Cross & The Angel of Light. There are no others. The reason I've never written a book is because all the major Christian companies wanted to rewrite the book, & it would end up 50% untrue.

THAT'S WHAT MIKE WARSEE SAID, HE SAID HE DIDN'T WRITE HIS OWN BOOK, LOGOS WROTE IT FOR HIM. He said, "Now John, you know it didn't happen that way." I said‚ "Well why did you put your name to it then?" Well, there's no books on it. The only books that I've seen are witch books, & if you buy them, you're in trouble!

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August 6, 1980

Miriam's footnote to the above John Todd Lectures:

Dearest Dad & Maria & Peter,

In answer to some of your questions, these particular tapes were a recording of a lecture John Todd gave in Elkton, Maryland at a Bible Baptist Church of which a Pastor Berry is the Minister. From recent information we just received from Chick Publications‚ this meeting evidently took place in the Fall of 1978.

I have received some letters of backing for John Todd & his information sent to me from Chick Publications, & also 3 copies of his booklets. The one he mentioned in his talk, Angel of Light, is included.

I made a call to Chick Publications & talked with Mr. Chick's personal secretary asking for more information about J.T. She told me that J.T. had to quit his ministry due to the controversy surrounding his testimony & a lack of support. Therefore as of the first of the year, J.T. was forced to quit & get a job to support his family. That was all she knew.

I then called Pastor Berry—I talked with his secretary as he was out of town, but she told me that he has been pretty rejected by the churches. However, even though J.T. is rejected by many, Pastor Berry is still close to him & talks with him frequently.

It has also caused a complete split in Berry's church, but evidently Berry is a pretty independent guy & chooses to believe much of what J.T. has to say. The secretary then told me that evidently because of J.T.'s exposure of the Illuminati, the Illuminati has been forced to change a few plans in order to make J.T. sound like a liar, but Pastor Berry still believes him.

Much much love & many prayers,

—Your Miriam.

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Curtis Dall's letter to Jack Chick: Re John Todd.

LIBERTY LOBBY PUBLISHER OF The Spotlight

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May 15, 1979

Mr. Jack Chick‚ President

Chick Publications

P. O. Box 662

Chino, California 91710

Dear Mr. Chick,

You may recognize my name as being a friend of John Todd, whom I had the pleasure of meeting in Elkton, Maryland, last fall. I talked with him for several hours, and later appeared on the platform with Pastor Berry, John Todd, and Nord Davis. (I spoke on inflation.)

Being reasonably well informed on the powers which are at work to influence our domestic and foreign policies, for their objectives,—having been with LIBERTY LOBBY for over 19 years, on Capitol Hill—I am greatly shocked by the ineptitude and downright ignorance of many alleged Christian leaders in this country, in observing how they "pick on" John Todd, instead of trying to steer him constructively, in the religious field. Most of these preachers haven't the faintest idea of the contribution John Todd has made to his fellow Americans by revealing the secret power structure of the Rothschild Complex, namely the Rothschilds who look to Lucifer for guidance, the Illuminati, and the Committee of thirty–three 33rd degree Masons. Their group is called The Rothschild Tribunal!

Most any High School student can grasp the fact that the power of the Occult, or witchcraft, plus the powers of Evil (The Illuminati) exert a most powerful influence upon our economic and political policies, here on capitol Hill, which is a matter in which I am particularly interested.

Mr. Chick‚ I have been receiving many letters, from all over the country, requesting my opinion in respect to John Todd. To repeat, I greatly respect the value of John's emergence from a life in "Dope" and "Witchcraft," to become a Christian,—which takes some doing!

Obviously‚ his powerful enemies are leaving no stone unturned to silence him, which regrettably might well be expected! This is a very complicated subject, one easy for some to distort, and so, to save time, I am enclosing for your information‚ a copy of a letter which I wrote to an old friend of mine in Ohio, which you can use in any manner that you see fit. I am sending a copy of this letter to you to my fine patriotic friend, Pastor Berry, in Elkton.

With best wishes, I remain

Cordially,

Curtis B. Dall

Board Chairman

P.S. My feelings expressed herein are purely personal‚ and have nothing to do with LIBERTY LOBBY or its Spotlight newspaper!—CBD.

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Curtis Dall's June 8, 1979 Letter to Jack Chick: Re John Todd.

COL. CURTIS B. DALL

Mayfair Towers No. 910

5375 Duke Street

Alexandria, Virginia 22304

Mr. Jack T. Chick, President

Chick Publications, Inc.

P.O. Box 662

Chino, California 91710

June 8, 1979

Dear Mr. Chick,

Thank you for your letter of May 24th, which was most interesting! It was particularly enlightening to me because I am not familiar with what you referred to as "Christian Politics." I would like to learn more about it! However‚ I am reasonably familiar with what could be described as "Secular Politics," and the manipulations of Global or "International" Money via large Central Bank Systems—Credit Monopoly! My reply, herein, to you, represents my own Personal Feelings,—no one else's!

As I see it, in order to grasp the full picture, to be fair to John Todd, one must consider both areas and not just bear down on John Todd in the Religious Area alone. Quite obviously, the resentful leaders of the powerful Rothschild Tribunal,—along with the servile "Hatchet Men" and their connections, are well aware that in the Christian Religious area, the majority of its Ministers, Pastors, Priests—you name it—have been heavily indoctrinated and are woefully uniformed, misinformed, or bribed!

It is the Secular Area that has aroused my interest in John Todd and his revelations! Of course, it is to be regretted if Todd has made some rash or incorrect statements in some of his religious meeting talks, for whatever reason, as claimed by some. That is too bad, but it is quite obvious to me that Todd needed added help and guidance in that particular area. In view of his struggle with witchcraft‚ dope, etc., is it surprising that he may be, at times, somewhat erratic?

What appears to have happened is that he created powerful, unrelenting enemies when he defected from "The Royal Family"—"The Grand Druid Council of 13"! It would be very dangerous for them, from a publicity standpoint‚ to openly defend the reasons and facts which led to Todd's defection! It would draw marked attention to the reported Luciferian factor involved, concerning the Rothschild leaders themselves‚ to the Druid Council, to the Illuminati, and to the Committee of thirty-three men, all of whom are 33rd degree Masons! Reportedly that secret information has always been very closely guarded, and if widely released, would be avidly seized upon by a disturbed Public, particularly the Christian Public, here & abroad!

So, it appears that the enemies of John Todd have marshaled all the powerful "tools", both animate and inanimate, that they have at their disposal to attack John and to neutralize or destroy him in order to protect themselves and their image,—certainly not to advance Christianity! Perish the thought!

History's pages are full of the struggle between those who fight for Human Progress‚ on the one hand‚ against the combined Forces of the Material World its Trappings, and on the other hand‚ the Forces of Darkness, actually Satanic or Luciferian. Hence, is not that powerful Force which now confronts John Todd well concealed behind the shrill voices of some "wrist-twisted," faintly Christian Dupes? So it appears!

Some day, I would like to meet the ex-Jesuit friend that you mentioned, and have a real chat with him! He sounds so well informed!

Should your affairs bring you to the Washington area, one of these days‚ let me know in advance. I will then try to get that fine Christian Patriot, Pastor Berry, to join us at the Army and Navy Club, for luncheon. In concluding, may I compliment you on your strong stand in opposing and fighting the apparently concentrated Forces of Darkness, in this connection!

With best wishes to you‚ I remain

Cordially,

Curtis B. Dall

P.S. Enclosed are two of my recent "Hot Line" messages which I think you will appreciate!

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Curtis Dall's letter to an old friend: Re John Todd.

Mayfair Towers, No. 910

5375 Duke Street

Alexandria, Virginia 22304

April 30, 1979

Dear ________,

At a recent luncheon at the Army and Navy Club, to which I invited two distinguished Americans‚ your name was mentioned by one of them coupled with mine, about John Todd! In effect, it was quoting you, that "Curtis Dall is one of Todd's great admirers"!

I do not recall ever discussing Todd and his various cassettes with you. Am I right? Hence, it is apparent to me that some people are using you as a "dupe" to spread some distorted information about me. Therefore, I am sending you this letter to set you straight, as we are old friends and can be quite frank with one another!

My observations here are personal ones, and have no connection whatsoever with LIBERTY LOBBY! This whole matter is a complicated one and forces me to write in much detail. It is‚ however, a very important matter as some aspects are extremely valuable to Americans, in revealing some of the factors which are working to tear down our Constitutional Republic!

In a fight for survival‚ it is most important to keep well posted as to who The Enemy is, and where his Forces are deployed! In that respect, I feel that some of Todd's statements were most revealing!

I will attempt to give you some broad background as to why I became interested in John Todd. The next time you come to Washington, I can further "fill you in", should you so desire!

I first became aware of John Todd when a friend of mine loaned me one of his cassettes to play. I listened to it and became interested, particularly in the area of what John said about The Illuminati, Lucifer, The Rothschilds, The Rockefellers, and 33rd degree Masons, etc. I decided to check further! I arranged to call upon a fine, one-minded Baptist Pastor, named Tom Berry, in Elkton, Maryland‚ who I was told was well informed about John Todd.

On my own time‚ and at my own expense, I went to see Pastor Berry‚ for an extended talk. It was most interesting. While there, I was invited to appear in a One Day Seminar with Pastor Berry, John Todd, and Nord Davis. My subject was "Inflation and our Predatory, Debt Finance, Federal Reserve Banking System". On the evening before the Seminar, I motored to Elkton, and talked with Pastor Berry and John Todd for about two hours‚ in the Pastors Study. I asked Todd twenty-one questions (prepared in advance) and he answered them all without any hesitation. Based upon his statements, it was obvious that the Luciferian, Illuminati, Rothschild, Rockefeller, International Banking Complex casts a "long shadow" over the Halls of Congress‚ and influences or intimidates numerous of our Legislators there, to the great detriment of the American People. (This, to me, was very disturbing, as well as well as revealing!)

Imagine my surprise when I returned to Washington, several days later, to find to letter to me from our friend, Bob Jones. In it‚ he referred to John Todd as a "Religious Con Man of the worst sort ... and unmitigated liar and a complete phony." The letter went on to refer to a similar type of opinion about Todd coming from the John Birch Society, and Bob also referred to Pastor Berry in a most uncomplimentary manner! This was surprising to me as Pastor Berry is a graduate of Bob Jones University.

Frankly, I was quite taken aback by Bob's letter and its tone, in general! So, I proceeded to do some more checking, and then replied to Bob's letter of Oct. 20th, on December 15, 1978. To save time, I am enclosing a copy of it for you.

Since last fall‚ I have listened to more of Todd's cassettes, & also listened to cassettes by other pastors, denouncing Todd. This is my current reaction to it:

Anyone who has lived the abnormal‚ traumatic life that John Todd has,—deep in witchcraft, dope, philandering, etc., is bound to be somewhat unbalanced in certain areas, and highly emotional! However, when Todd came "out" of witchcraft, and became a Christian, I would think that anyone who is even purporting to be a Christian Leader would have tried to protect and guide John in the Religious Area to help him avoid making inaccurate statements!

I break down his comments into two general areas,—The Secular and The Religious. In this instance, I am not particularly interested in the Religious Areas! I am very interested in his comments in the Secular Area! I am certainly no Theologian,—just a disturbed Christian, but an active Fighter on the Front Line against the Antichrist, and the one World, Atheistic‚ Bolshevik Dictatorship which now confronts us! I want no part of it for my Faith, my Family‚ my Country. No part of it!! It hate Deception!

At this point‚ I wish to say that I reject, and certainly do not condone any lies or inaccurate or damaging statements that hurt innocent parties! But, whether the Rockefellers have given money‚ or lent "Art" to Bob Jones University, or whether there are lots of Masons on its Governing Board, or just a few‚ is of but slight interest to me; likewise, I am but slightly interested, also, as to whether Bob Welch, the mysterious Leaders of the John Birch Society (in whom I no longer have any confidence, because of his manifest duplicity towards me, a former enthusiastic member) is a 33rd degree Mason or a 3rd degree Mason. I would think that simple denials would be adequate in place of so much souped–up, indignant Thunder! Recall, from Shakespeare, "Methinks thou dost protest too much."

I would be very interested to hear if any of Todd's critics could present valid evidence (not hearsay) that:

(1) John Todd was not born "Collins" and hence was not a member of Witchcraft's "Royal Family".

(2) That John Todd was never a member of "The Grand Druid Council of 13".

(3) That John Todd never attended a meeting of that Council.

(4) That no U.S. Senator or U.S. Congressman (whose names I have) appeared before his cell door‚ in the Mannheim Stockade, in Germany, along with two high–ranking U.S. Army Generals, when he was ordered to come out, with arrangements made for him to be released & allowed to return to the U.S.A.

(5) That the very powerful "Rothschild Tribunal," as Todd described it to a number of people, does not consist of:

(a) Lucifer, at the top.

(b) The Rothschilds & their Global International Banking associates and connections.

(c) The Illuminati.

(d) A Global Committee of Thirty-three 33rd degree Masons.

These five facts, as I heard them from Todd, repeated several times, I consider very important! What say you?

I am aware of the usual technique employed by the Enemy in retaliation in respect to something or somebody who has exposed some of their secret operations! John Todd‚ apparently‚ has done so‚ and the defection of a member of "The Royal Family" of Luciferian Witchcraft certainly must be highly embarrassing to its Top Leaders! Hence, very strong measures could be expected to be implemented against Todd to deny certain of his statements, which is easy, or, to get others to malign him on various nitty-gritty matters, in an effort to destroy his credibility on all matters! It is quite doubtful if those "top leaders" would dare risk an exposure of size by a challenge in the Secular Area and hence, the Religious Area is the one in which they would prefer to operate, along with plenty of money, artfully supplied to grease-the-wheels‚ and to line-up designated "Hatchet Men," hither and yon! Keep this well in mind! Apparently, they feel that Todd must be thoroughly discredited‚ silenced, or even assassinated!

So, I say to you, if one wishes to be fair, this matter must be carefully evaluated. I would not like to see John Todd's valuable revelations in certain areas neatly "side-tracked" or submerged, by some well-funded dupes of "The Other Side", even if Todd's safari into the area of Theology and Religion has not been exactly as it should be!

One Pastor, Dr. Roland Rasmussen, has made a cassette, which I have, and which he calls "The Final Verdict on Todd"! That title, on the face of it, is ridiculous because that pastor, apparently‚ possesses merely a "worm's-eye view" of a very complicated subject! I recognize the constructive factors here, and minimize the destructive factors which may have shown up. I greatly admire John's struggle to "come-out" from "Dope" and "Witchcraft" which takes some doing, but my position in regards to the "nitty-gritty" areas is a balanced one! I trust this is clear to you, and to anyone who may read this letter! Hope to see you here‚ again, before long! Kindest regards.

Faithfully yours,

Curtis B. Dall

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M/M'S COMMENTS ON JOHN TODDDO 948August 1980

1. (MARIA: JOHN TODD SAID, "I SAID WHAT I'VE SAID TONIGHT FIVE YEARS AGO & PEOPLE WERE READY TO LYNCH ME; now they're listening to me because they can see it in the newspaper!"—Just like they do us!) Well, there's still plenty of people who won't believe him, just like a few of our own staff at first! Well, they may have thought that I'm their prophet & I ought to know all these things, & if I haven't told'm about it, why then they wouldn't necessarily believe it. But I've never gotten into that stuff & I don't really care to. (Maria: No‚ you can't do everything.)

2. I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT, & MY MOTHER HAD SOME EXPERIENCE ALONG THAT LINE. She didn't really want to fight the [ACs], but she did. They forced her to. And she definitely didn't want to get into witchcraft & demonology & that kind of stuff, we saw too much evil come from it & not enough good; trying to fight the Devil on his own terms & going out of your way to stir up trouble you don't need. (Maria: Yes, leave it to John Todd!—He's the person for it!)

3. THANK GOD FOR PEOPLE LIKE HIM! HE KNOWS ALL ABOUT IT & HE CAN SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE & FACTS & HE KNOWS, so he's the right kind to fight it & he's got the inspiration to fight it. He hates it enough to fight it. (Maria: It's like the Lord doesn't make one person do everything.) Everybody has their ministry. (Maria: Well, it must be his ministry!) It says, "Let every man abide in the calling wherein he is called." (1Cor.7:20.) Not everybody is going to have every ministry. (Maria: and it says that all members of the body are needed.)

4. IT OBVIOUSLY WAS OUR MINISTRY TO REAP THE HARVEST OF THE YOUTH REVOLUTION IN THE '60s & '70s when we were trying to reach the hippies, which we did, thank the Lord!—And we reached quite a harvest of real genuine Lord-lovers that really were all–out, forsook all, went into all the World to preach the Gospel, & the whole World's heard about us! So we did our job, thank You Lord, & are still doing what we can.

5. LIKE EVERY PROPHET OF GOD, THE LORD ALWAYS ASKED HIM TO GO TO HIS PEOPLE FIRST, whether they be Jews or Christians or whatever. God always wanted to give them their chance first, but they always rejected & always became the bitterest enemies & always persecuted the Prophet & the Truth afterwards. So the churches are about the last place he could have gone to expect to be believed!—They're about the most unbelieving of all! After all, the World believes more in the Devil than the Church!

6. FIRST OF ALL, MANY BAPTISTS ARE THE PHARISEES OF THE PHARISEES! My Mother used to say that she thought they were harder to get saved than the Catholics, because they're so know–it-all. They think they've got it all & you can't tell 'em anything! "Once saved, always saved, eternal security & that's that!"—Born again & that's all they need. As far as they're concerned they don't need anything else.

7. THEY FIGHT PENTECOST, FIGHT THE BAPTISM‚ FIGHT HEALING, FIGHT SPIRIT LIFE & anything else that's not strictly Baptist!—So they're a tough bunch! But thank God they preach Salvation. They're strong on Salvation, really being born again, & that's as far as most go. They're like little babies that just get born & never grow any further. It seems they just never grow spiritually or much more. Of course I'm talking about the majority, that's not the exceptional ones who get into Pentecost or deeper life later—like John Todd & this church!

8. SO IT'S NO WONDER THAT TODD LOCKED HORNS WITH SOME OF THEM! He got saved by that Baptist preacher in a Baptist Church & got started with them, & that was a pretty tough start. Because the things of the Spirit are anathema to most of them, & they don't like to even hear about them & they fight them. Most're against healing‚ tongues, the baptism of the Holy Spirit & all those things.

9. THEY THINK THEY GOT EVERYTHING THERE IS TO GET WHEN THEY WALKED DOWN THE AISLE & TOOK THE PREACHER'S HAND!—And I guess they did get all they were gonna get anyhow. But for poor John Todd to get involved with them, that was a tough nut to crack! It's no wonder they rejected him, because most don't like anything that's that deeply spiritual.

10. AFTER ALL, HIS TEACHING IS VERY DEEPLY SPIRITUAL in the realm of evil spirits & demons & devils & witches & witchcraft, & it's a miracle that the Baptists are even spiritual enough to believe in the Devil! But of course most wouldn't admit that the Devil was active in demons & evil spirits & demon possession today. So he was off to a pretty tough start‚ but I guess the Lord allowed it to try to crack in & give His people a chance first to hear.

11. IT'S JUST LIKE THE SCRIBES & THE PHARISEES, THEY REJECTED HIM JUST LIKE THEY REJECTED JESUS. It's like they're saying, "Who is he to tell us anything when we know it all?" Just like the Scribes & the Pharisees treated Jesus: "Who is this young upstart, son of a carpenter, to tell us anything when He's never even been to the Sanhedrin or the Rabbinical school & He doesn't have our stamp of approval!—Who does He think He is telling us anything when we know it all?"—That's the typical attitude of the Church, so it's no wonder they rejected him.

12. —AND THAT FIGURES THAT HE WAS REJECTED BY BOB JONES!—Bob Jones is an ultra ultra Baptist, he's even too Baptist for the Baptists! He practically hates everybody but himself & his own graduates, & if his graduates turn on him, he hates them too!

13. HE WAS ONE OF THE BITTEREST ENEMIES OF BILLY GRAHAM & FOUGHT HIM TOOTH & TOENAIL! He called him a fraud, a phony, a religious racketeer & a con-man—all those names he's calling John Todd! So John Todd is in pretty good company along with Billy Graham!

14. I DON'T AGREE WITH BILLY GRAHAM ON EVERYTHING, BUT I REALLY CONSIDER HIM ONE OF THE OUTSTANDING EVANGELISTS & PROPHETS OF HIS DAY FOR THE LORD to win souls & people to Christ; & I believe he was a great reaper of the world during its last days before this coming war. He was a great reaper in mass evangelism, & God has mightily used him.

15. I BELIEVE HE WAS ABSOLUTELY INSPIRED OF GOD & FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT & ON FIRE, & I ADMIRE BILLY GRAHAM GREATLY! But then he got in some of the wrong company, like dear Nixon & a few of those, & he began to compromise for power & popularity, which in a way killed his ministry & his spirit. He went through some pretty bad experiences, broken down in health & everything else‚ but he did his bit & he was a great man.

16. BOB JONES HATED FRED JORDAN TOO; Fred Jordan was one of the worst of the worst to him! Well, Fred wasn't perfect, but at least he preached the Gospel & he was getting souls saved & reaching the World with the Gospel, at least America. But if Bob Jones attacked John Todd, John Todd is in very good company along with Billy Graham, Fred Jordan & us, whom he also attacked bitterly.

17. THESE GUYS FIRING CASSETTES BACK & FORTH AT EACH OTHER REMINDS ME OF THE OLD WORLD WAR I WARFARE firing shells back & forth at each other. In fact, this is what the containers were called—the caissons—the shell carriers that contained the explosives. They fired them out of large guns & hit each other, & they exploded when they hit. So here are these guys, these preachers‚ firing these cassettes at each other!

18. ANY SANE SYSTEMITE, EVEN A SYSTEMITE FRIEND OF OURS, IN TRYING TO EXPLAIN US TO OTHERS like Roy Wallis does, would probably call us a bit unbalanced & highly emotional too, but nevertheless they do a lot of good!

19. OH, NOW I GET IT!—ROCKEFELLER! No wonder the Baptists would have turned on John Todd when Rockefeller tipped'm off! He was one of the big supporters of Bob Jones University! He also built the World's largest Baptist church, the huge Baptist Cathedral there in New York, of which he was the leading member!

20. THE ROCKEFELLER FAMILY WERE LEADING BAPTISTS! (Maria: Oh, so they bought all the Baptists out too!) Well, they obviously bought some of them out! (Maria: Wowie!) I believe old John D. himself was a sincere Christian, I met him. He's the one that really started the family from poor boy on up & became the leader of Standard Oil, one of the richest men in the World!

21. JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER HAD THREE SONS—DAVID, NELSON & JOHN D. JR. Which one is he accusing of being a witch? (Maria: David, I think.) John D. Jr. is the oldest, then Nelson & then David. David was Governor of Arkansas; Nelson, Governor of New York; & I don't know what John D. Jr. was, he was governor of Standard Oil.

22. BUT THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY THE BAPTISTS WOULD TURN ON TODD‚ because the Rockefellers are supposed leading Baptists & built that huge monstrous multi-million-dollar Baptist church! I think it's called National Baptist Church or something like that, where they had the statue of Darwin as one of the great men of the World in their church, can you imagine?!—We visited there & I can remember seeing it! Dr. Harry Emerson Fosdick was Pastor.

23. DR. FOSDICK WHO USED TO PREACH THERE WAS A RANK MODERNIST WHO COULD HAVE BEEN THE DEVIL HIMSELF PREACHING! (Maria: Well, that confirms what Todd says about the Rockefellers!) He preached the most rank unbelieving modernism, he didn't believe anything! He simply preached Christ as a teacher & philosopher & all that sort of thing.

24. (MARIA: THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT JOHN TODD SAID THEY WERE DOING, BUYING THEM OUT!) That figures, that figures! Oh, I've got to remember the name of that church too! I can see it yet on that big huge boulevard North of New York City. It was a gorgeous place, right on the Hudson River, like a park!—Beautiful!

25. OOOOH! WOW! HOW THE CONSERVATIVE FUNDAMENTALISTS HATED THAT GUY, BECAUSE HE PREACHED JUST LIKE THE DEVIL! He was one of the outstanding leaders of the modernistic unbelieving totally liberal Christians of the United States. He was one of the top leaders, for example, of what was first called the Federal Council of Churches, & then the National Council of Churches‚ cold formal unbelievers!

26. THEY FINALLY HAD TO CHANGE THE NAME TO THE WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES because it raised such a stink under each different name. They had to keep changing the name because it stunk so! They were involved in all kinds of the worst kind of activities, literally virtually promoting atheism & evolution with a statute of Darwin right in his church! (Maria: It sounds exactly like what John Todd's talking about!)

27. HE WAS ONE OF THE LEADING ORGANIZERS OF THE WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES—ONE OF THE GREATEST FRIENDS OF THE COMMUNISTS. The World Council of Churches supports guerrillas in Africa & donates actual cash to buy 'em guns to shoot people‚ to shoot real Christian believers! The World Council of Churches—ugh!—It's like the Sanhedrin of the Devil! Oh, I can believe that!

28. I CAN BELIEVE THAT WITCHCRAFT & THE WITCHES CONTROL THAT OUTFIT, BECAUSE THEY'VE ACTED LIKE IT FOR YEARS! Doctor Fosdick was the pastor of that church. He was very very famous on radio for years & was probably the most famous Protestant radio preacher. Father what's-his–name was the famous Catholic radio preacher, & this guy was the most famous modernistic Protestant radio preacher on the air.

29. BUT I CAN BELIEVE IT, CONSIDERING WHAT KIND OF A CHURCH THAT WAS, about as ungodly & as atheistic & modernistic as you can possibly find any kind of a church! And that guy, he was brilliant, a brilliant orator, & pastored that big huge monstrous Baptist cathedral. I think they even called it the Baptist Cathedral, something like that, right there on the North side of New York on the Hudson River.

30. IT WAS MOST FAMOUS AS ROCKEFELLER'S CHURCH, THE MULTIMILLION-DOLLAR CHURCH THAT THE ROCKEFELLERS HAD BUILT!—And he put this modernistic atheistic unbelieving devil in as pastor, with a statue of Darwin in the church! We had heard about that for years‚ although I had never seen it, but I could believe it from hearing him preach on the radio.

31. SO I TOOK THE KIDS WHEN THEY WERE SMALL, & WE DROVE OUT THERE; I think we even had the Cruiser at that time. We drove out there & looked at it, & sure enough, there was the statute of Darwin! Can you imagine? The author of atheism, Hell itself, right in that church! That is the church built by the Rockefellers & pastored by this outstanding unbelieving Godless modernist!

32. SO IF THERE WAS EVER A CHURCH OF THE DEVIL UNDER THE GUISE OF SHEEP'S CLOTHING, THAT WAS IT! That was it! I can believe it! No wonder the Baptists have got it in for Todd. And when I heard him talking against the Rockefellers I thought, uh oh, he'd better watch out! Money talks & money has power, he is going to get it! They will get at him somehow, & they will certainly not take that lying down!—Obviously they didn't.

33. KILLING HIM WAS TOO GOOD FOR HIM, THEY HAD TO BESMIRCH HIM‚ DISGRACE HIM, EMBARRASS HIM, BELITTLE HIM, DEBUNK HIM & DISCREDIT HIM! That was the smartest thing they could do was try to make a fool out of him so nobody would believe anything he said.—Maybe picked a few things he said where he exaggerated or made a mistake or misquoted.

34. I'VE DONE THAT, I'VE CALLED IT SUMMER EQUINOX WHEN I MEANT TO SAY SOLSTICE. (Maria: You've exaggerated things, like maybe you said hundred when there were only fifty or something.) Well now, I wouldn't admit to exaggeration, Honey! I just speak rather emphatically & enthusiastically! (Maria: That's the point!)

35. BUT YOU KNOW GOOD & WELL I ALWAYS TRY TO BE TRUTHFUL! If I make a mistake, it could happen to be on the up side rather than the down side. If I'm going to make an estimate of a crowd I'm going to do it evangelistically speaking. Rather than be negative, why not be positive? If you're going to do any guessing‚ well, make it a good guess while you're at it! (Maria: Exactly!) But I usually say "it's my opinion" or "about" or something.

36. (MARIA: YES, IF YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS, YOU TELL THE TRUTH!) If I know the exact figures I give them‚ & if I don't know the exact figures I estimate them.—And if I'm estimating, I might as well estimate it good while I'm at it! (Maria: Why not? Of course! It's anybody's guess!) OK, Honey, put me in a class with John Todd, that's OK.

37. WITH SUCH A TREMENDOUS MESSAGE WITH SUCH TREMENDOUS IMPACT, HE WAS BOUND TO HAVE STIRRED UP A HORNET'S NEST OF ENEMIES!—Not only in the political & economic field, but the religious field. So he shouldn't be surprised that his revelations really stirred up a storm! Of course he probably thought that if these Christians were like Jesus, they were going to believe him.

38. HE WAS PROBABLY ALMOST CHILDLIKE IN HIS NAIVETY TO BELIEVE THEY WERE GOING TO RECEIVE IT & BE HIS FRIENDS, & he was probably astounded to find out they wouldn't even believe him!—Not only that but reject him & even persecute him for telling them the truth! (Maria: It's a wonder he hasn't backslidden!) Well‚ let's certainly hope he doesn't. I'm sure the Devil's trying to break him.

39. NATURALLY THESE GUILTY PARTIES, THESE DRUIDS & WITCHES & LEADERS OF THE FINANCIAL/POLITICAL WORLD, ARE NOT GOING TO GO ON RECORD TRYING TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, nor trying to explain the Illuminati or the 33rd Degree Masons or the Council of Druids & so on; because they want the World to think these things don't even exist!

40. SO THEY JUST POOH-POOH THE WHOLE THING & SAY LIKE THE ENCYCLOPEDIA SAYS: SPURIOUS‚ NON-EXISTENT & A FRAUD! The [ACs] don't even want it discussed as though there were anything to it at all. So they apparently bore down on other areas on Todd. (Maria: But he was trying to tell them & they didn't accept it.)

41. WELL, AS USUAL GOD'S PEOPLE SELDOM EVER ACCEPT THE VOICE OF HIS PROPHETS. God in His mercy gives them the message & the warning first so they'll be held accountable, but then they always reject it. It's just invariable throughout history.

42. ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BIBLE THE PEOPLE OF GOD REJECTED THE VOICE OF GOD & THE PROPHET OF GOD!—They usually killed them in the long run & went their own stubborn willful wicked way until God destroyed them, which is exactly what's happening in America. Here he's another prophet of God to try to wake'm up & shake'm up & warn'm of what's happening in the World, but they don't even believe him, therefore don't receive it.

43. THEY REJECT HIM & HIS MESSAGE & PERSECUTE HIM & TRY TO DISCREDIT HIM because they don't want to believe it. They don't want to hear it: "Go away! Leave me alone! My mind's made up, don't confuse me with the facts!"—That's typical of Christians & Jews. Oh, Lord help us! Thank God for the Family of Love!—The Children of Love!

44. I LIKE THAT NAME, CHILDREN OF LOVE‚ IT'S A COMBINATION OF OUR TWO NAMES—Children of God & Family of Love. Children has a good taste & Love has a good taste—Children of Love! I think that's a very good name. We heard that first on MWM, didn't we? Somebody was using that name? (Maria: I think you got it from the Lord, "This is the voice of the Children of Love!")—I did? Really? I forgot that! PTL! Hallelujah! "MWM is the voice of the Children of Love!" Well, God's given us a new name, PG! TYL! The Children of Love! It's got a little bit of both names.

45. OK, SO THERE'S NO WONDER‚ HE CERTAINLY MUST HAVE EXPECTED IT! He was expecting assassination & he was getting the word out as fast as he could! But in a way he suffered even worse by being humiliated, discredited, called a fraud & a con-man & a fake & a phony & being disgraced. Some people would rather die or commit suicide than be disgraced. They consider it even worse than death!

46. AND HERE HE TRIED TO GIVE THE MESSAGE; BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO EVERY PROPHET. That's what the so-called people of God have always done to every prophet, the false people of God, like [some of] the Jews & some churches, etc. So I'm sure he must have expected it, although he might have been surprised from what quarter it came!—From the ones that he expected to be his friends & receive him!

47. JUST LIKE PROPHETS OF OLD WERE AMAZED THAT GOD'S OWN CHILDREN DIDN'T RECEIVE THE MESSAGE!—Supposed children‚ His Own people, the Jews, & later the Christians. Just like the Jews rejected the Prophets of the Bible, today the Christians & the churches have rejected God's modern prophets, time after time, including me & dear John Todd.

48. MY MOTHER USED TO SAY‚ "SPEAK OF THE DEVIL & YOU'LL STIR UP THE DEVIL," & she never liked to get into that sort of thing. The Devil really doesn't like to be exposed, & he really stirs up trouble if you start exposing him. Well, we've exposed a lot of his chicanery already‚ & look at the trouble we stirred up!—First of all with the churches, & then the [ACs] & God only knows who else!

49. (MARIA: WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN THIS TWO YEARS AGO WHEN HE MADE THE THING, BUT WE DIDN'T. IT'S ALMOST LIKE NOW'S ITS TIME.) Maybe he needs the encouragement now, & it's time for the message to get out more now; because it will get out further through us than anybody. We may not look like much or be much, but we sure get around‚ & our message really gets out to millions! (Maria: Top people, too!)—Not just the churches & not the politicians, but to the whole World! PTL!

50. IN CLOSING I WOULD SAY IT SHOULD NOT BE SURPRISING THAT ANY MODERN PROPHET OF GOD WOULD GET PERSECUTION & REJECTION, particularly by the unbelieving churches & disobedient churches; disobedient people of God who don't want to listen, who don't want to hear‚ who are deaf, dumb & blind!—Deaf to the truth, blind to the facts & dumb to preaching the Gospel in all the World!

51. THEY DON'T WANT TO WAKE UP, THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE IT, THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT, SO THEREFORE THEY'VE GOT TO REJECT IT!—And in rejecting the Message they have to reject the Prophet, & worse yet, they have to try to discredit him to prove that what he said wasn't true‚ so they can get if off their conscience! So I'm sure that will relieve quite a few Christians to hear their smears now‚ that John Todd was a fraud, because they probably were pretty shook up & and quite a bit concerned!

52. I WONDER WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THE POOR GUY NOW, POOR FELLOW! I hope he manages to survive‚ God willing. They obviously didn't kill him because that would have proved that what he said was right, but that's what he was expecting. I'm sure they'll try to keep him discredited & shut up as much as they can; & of course by smearing him & getting him kicked out of the churches & discrediting him, in a way they've shut him up & he's lost his voice.

53. BUT WHAT HE SAID IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO WHAT I'VE ALWAYS HEARD EVEN SINCE A CHILD ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS, that I'm inclined to believe that what he has to say is true.—Particularly the way things turned out, him being black-balled & black-listed by the churches & the church people.

54. THEY ARE ALSO SOME OF OUR BIGGEST ENEMIES & BRAND US AS A FRAUD & A FAKE & A PHONY & A CON–MAN & a religious racketeer & a false prophet & all the other names they've been calling him! So he shouldn't feel too bad, because they called Billy Graham, Fred Jordan & a few other men of God the same thing—who are men of God in spite of their mistakes‚ as I'm a man of God in spite of mine!

55. I STILL THINK IT'S WORTH GIVING HIM A VOICE BACK AGAIN & GET HIS MESSAGE OUT, & maybe that will encourage him to know that somebody still believes him & is sending the Message on. We don't have to say that we believe it, we can just put it in the Magazine & let the people take it for what it's worth, take it or leave it! They don't have to believe it, they don't have to believe me, but they'd better!

56. (MARIA: IT'S LIKE YOU GET THE WITNESS OF THE SPIRIT ON IT TOO, THAT IT'S THE TRUTH!)—YES, I CERTAINLY DID! All the way through it sounded good to me! It sounded just like what we've been preaching, & just corroborated a lot of what we've been preaching & what I've heard in the past & known for years but have never come out & openly preached because it's really almost too dangerous!

57. YOU'RE ATTACKING THE DEVIL'S OWN TERRITORY & HE DOESN'T LIKE IT! But we've done that already anyhow, so what's the difference? (Maria: There's no turning back‚ because the [ACs] have it in for you forever anyway; they won't relent even if you stop talking about'm altogether!) No, they'll never let you go, no matter what.

58. LOOK AT THESE NAZIS THAT GOT A LITTLE BIT INVOLVED DURING THE WAR as mere petty officers obeying orders & so on, & then after the war was over they completely reformed & quit it & went thousands of miles away & started a whole new life. But the Jews never left them alone, they hounded them to the very end!

59. 30, 40, 50 YEARS LATER THEY'RE STILL OUT TO GET'M‚ EVEN IF THEY'VE REPENTED & CHANGED & have never done another wrong thing for the last 40 or 50 years, they're out to get'm! They never forgive them. I had to laugh at what that one Jewish woman said, "Well yes, forgive, but never forget!" Well, that isn't forgiveness.

60. YOU CAN'T SAY YOU FORGIVE & NEVER FORGET, IT MEANS YOU'RE STILL HOLDING IT AGAINST THEM. That's typical of [some people]. So I'm not exactly expecting [religious people] to forgive me for the things I've said; they'll always be out to get me if they can. (Maria: So we might as well keep saying it! Ha! It's not going to make any difference!)

61. WE'VE ALREADY SAID IT, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL TELL THEM THE REST OF THE FACTS & GIVE THEM JOHN TODD'S MESSAGE, GOD WILLING. Amen, I think it's worth publishing, for what it's worth‚ & I think it's worth quite a bit! It corroborates & fills in the details & the facts of what I've always known & believed & heard ever since I was a kid through several great men of God who were exposing them in those days even when I was a child, like Winrod, Gerald L.K. Smith, Henry Ford & a few others.

62. (MARIA: THE ONLY ONES I THINK JOHN TODD DIDN'T ACCUSE IS THE [ACs]. Maybe he didn't even realize or he would have come out against them, because he blasted everything else.) Who knows? He might have just been smart enough not to mention [them], knowing how powerful they are. After all, if he was that smart & he was that high a Druid & all the rest, he must know how smart they are & how organized they are. If you say one word against them, then you've really had it, they really sock it to you!

63. HE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO EVEN GET OUT HIS MESSAGE AS FAR AS HE DID IF HE'D OPENLY CRACKED AT THE [ACs]!—Especially in fundamentalist conservative churches. …

64. LOOK HOW BILLY GRAHAM & ALL THAT BUNCH OF CONSERVATIVES CAME OUT WITH THAT BIG FULL-PAGE AD IN THE NEW YORK TIMES or some paper during the days when they were having a big controversy over whether to recognize the PLO! I've forgotten exactly what was the occasion, remember! Anyhow, they came out in favor of Israel, siding with them in the controversy & blah blah! Boy oh boy!

65. IT'S ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE HOW THE CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN DUPED BY THE [ACs] into … promoting … Israel & all the rest. You talk about clever, they are clever!—And the Christians are dumb! So it all figures, & I think we should publish it. PTL!

(Amen!—Are you glad we did?—D)

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