July 16, 2004
(ML #3500, GN 1087)
FD/MM/FM June 2004
(ML #1748, DB 7.)
1. LESBIANISM IS LIKE LIQUOR OR GAMBLING OR DOPE! The gambler can't be trusted to even get near the tables, the alcoholic can't be trusted with one taste & the drug addict can't be trusted with one shot! She's got to be totally & utterly delivered & separated from that kind of behaviour & activity, completely! No more women!—Period! (Maria: Don't you think that's the crux of the matter‚ if she's told in no uncertain terms what the problem is‚ & then it's up to her whether she's willing or not?) Absolutely! We're going to have to totally forbid it, ban it & exorcise it‚ & she's not to promote that anymore at all, indulge in it anymore at all! She's to fight it & conquer it & get the victory! (Maria: But the thing is to get her to be willing, you know.) She's got a lot of pride. (Maria: Well, we haven't really dealt with her lesbianism right out flat. That's what we're planning to do.)
2. That's what you're going to have to do! She's still arrogant & defiant about that. She thinks she's been justified in it & that I've defended it, but that's the finish! It hasn't borne good fruit, obviously.
3. The Lord is trying to make a woman out of her, but she just absolutely rejected it, she doesn't want it. She prides herself in being a man & being what she is, & that's got to get knocked out of her & we're not going to tolerate it anymore! That's the end, finito, no more‚ no more! And she's got to come to the point where she's going to have a testimony to give the World on it, the whole World‚ & how wrong she was on it & what evil fruit it bore & what a bad effect it had on her & her spiritual life & others. She's going to have to have some kind of victorious glorious testimony that she was miraculously delivered or she's not going to be of any use any more at all.—I wouldn't want to give her the time of day, much less any responsibility in the Family.
4. We have just sort of let her be an exception. But we can't do it anymore! She's going to have to be delivered or else! Oh Lord, help us! She's going to have to get the victory, that's all! No more mannishness!—Just like you can't even let an alcoholic or gambler or drug addict near his temptation any more. We're going to have to forbid it. I'd say she shouldn't even be allowed to dance with [women] anymore or sleep with [women]. That's almost giving her a temptation that's more than she can bear. It's her weakness. She thinks it's her strength but it's her weakness & it's a terrible spiritual weakness! It really let the Devil in! (Maria: I got the verse before that "old things are passed away, behold ALL things are become new" (2Cor.5:17) & I told her that, that all things have to become new in her life. Everything has to completely change.)
5. It's an entire psychological spiritual wrench to have to look at it as an evil thing & not tolerate it anymore instead of vindicating herself or feeling vindicated & feeling that those Letters vindicated her. So it's just going to have to be World knowledge. This whole thing is going to come out! It's not going to be able to be hidden in the closet. We can't have this sort of thing happen & not let this cat out of the bag.
6. I'll tell you‚ you can't yield to that spirit, that's all there is to it! You can't feed it & minister to it & encourage it or it just goes wild! It's gone hogwild in Keda & she's either got to be cured or else‚ so that it comes to the point that she realises it's evil & it's demonic, it's devilish, it's fiendish, it's hellish & it's not right & it cannot be tolerated! It has to be rebuked & cast out & gotten rid of once & for all, or we just can't use her anymore! I can't even stand to have her around while she still has that spirit!
7. She's going to have to ask the Lord for a meek & quiet spirit, the humble spirit of a woman, the weaker vessel. That's the very thing she abhors, & she prides herself on being so strong, stronger than women. This is the end of the line for that spirit, she's got to be delivered, that's all‚ or she'll be of no more use to us or the Lord, & the World is going to have to know it, sooner or later.
8. When I was first asked that question by her & Shua, when she wrote to me in London about it, I knew virtually nothing about lesbianism‚ never had any personal contact with a lesbian. I know I abhorred Sodomites but I never really had any experience with lesbians & I was trying to be charitable, trying to be as merciful as possible & look on the bright side. But now that I've had personal contact & seen it with my own eyes, it's abhorrent! Intolerable!
9. All this time she's excused herself & defended herself & exonerated herself & justified herself that it was all right, in fact even prided herself in it! Now she's got to see it as it really is, as it is in Jude!—That's GOD'S picture of it! Lord help us, in Jesus' name! Have mercy! Thank God for that one little ray of hope in that passage, "others save with fear". (Maria: Yes, your whole talk last night was about, "If you have to go in there & save her through fear or threatening or beat it out of her by fear, so she'd be afraid NOT to do the right thing.")
10. And may the Lord forgive me for ever defending lesbianism when I really knew little or nothing about it! (Maria: No‚ but back there you really made it clear that it was a perversion & needed to be delivered.) I mean, where it is real love & affection of any two people for each other, that's a different story. But this carnal, disgusting‚ rotten, lust of the flesh that she has‚ TOTALLY only for women, that's not of the Lord, & TOTALLY only for the flesh!
11. I think she could be a very charming pleasant personality, a wonderful character, if she'd get rid of that! But I think that's the thing the Lord has just abhorred in her, & He's not going to tolerate it any longer! Now that we've uncovered it & discovered it, He's not going to put up with it anymore! The days of our ignorance He winked at, but now He's going to have to call us to repentance!—Acts 17:30. We share the guilt, we tolerated it, we put up with it, although I must admit it was certainly difficult for me, as you know. I abhorred it every time I had to get near her or she stayed with us or lived with us or ate with us!
12. "Spots at our feasts".—What a Scripture to get! Isn't that amazing how the Lord gives you sometimes just one verse or one phrase out of a passage, then that's the key that unlocks the door to the whole passage, & thereby He directs you to that particular passage! But the whole thing fits her to a tee, except we're trusting she's one of the "others" that we're going to be able to save with fear, & not the worst kind for whom there is no hope.
13. I'm sure there is hope for her. She knows & loves the Lord, that's obvious. And apparently she has the Holy Spirit, I hope‚ & she surely must love the Lord. She seems to. (Maria: Amen.) And she's stuck with His Work through thick & thin for all these years, although it may have been a battle. But she's had a battle with THIS thing for all her life, & she finally just resigned herself to it & gave in to it apparently, & just accepted it as something that was unchangeable & tolerable. But it's not, "nothing is impossible with the Lord" & "all things are possible to him that believeth."—Lk.1:37; Mk.9:23. So I'm counting on that verse there that gives us a ray of hope, "Others save with fear."—Jude 23.
14. So let's hope we can save her for the Lord's Work. I believe that the Lord is able & I believe we can. But she has to be confronted with the facts & with the truth of how HORRIBLE it is & how ABHORRENT it is to God & how REVOLTING & REPULSIVE, it just plain stinks as far as He's concerned, & I have just always had that personal feeling every time she's been around! I've tried to get the victory over it & tried to be charitable & loving & sweet & kind & forgiving & overlook it, but I just haven't been able to shake it, but now I realise that God doesn't WANT me to shake it. He wants us to shake her, shake HER up & get rid of it! "The days of that ignorance God winked at‚ but now He's calling all of us to repent." We've got to all repent for having tolerated it & put up with it & even encouraged it. So we're all guilty. (Maria: Yes.)
15. For we're coming to a period where we're going to need more power & greater purification. The Lord doesn't want anything to interfere with it, because He's not going to be able to tolerate a thing that the Devil can put his finger on or that the Devil can use, no little loopholes or cracks in the armour or holes in the dike. He wants to make a clean sweep so we can be ready for what's coming. And you can't have that kind of power unless the Lord's in complete control, no little devils on the inside, much less any great Satans! To make saints He's got to get rid of the Satans.
16. Lord help us in Jesus' name! Give her the guts to face it! She has to deny & rebuke & ask for deliverance from her whole way of life‚ the thing that she has made out of herself all her life & the way she's lived all her life, the thing she's lived for. She's either going to have a tremendous victory or it would certainly be a terrible defeat!
17. She really needs a brainwashing from all the devilish philosophy she read as a teenager! She's going to really have to ask the Lord to just absolutely cleanse her mind of all that filth! It's absolutely demonic! She's going to have to be rewired! All that kind of philosophy was absolutely demonic, devilish, fiendish, Satanic, the worst thing she could have possibly gotten into!
18. Well, praise God! He gets His greatest victories out of some of the worst defeats, & if she gets a victory, let me tell you, it's going to be one monumental, colossal, gigantic, stupendous victory over that kind of thing! We sort of laughed at it & winked at it & tolerated it at first because we really didn't know it. (Maria: That's right.) But now the Lord has exposed it. What a tiny little thing for God to use! The Devil just took one step too far‚ just got out of line with one little crack which opened the door to show what was underneath, this seemingly innocent little remark. Boy, I'll tell you though, it really teed me off, it sparked my fuse & I blew up! Afterwards I wondered, "How could I have been so incensed & so offended & so absolutely furious at her saying such a thing?" But now I begin to realise, as we begin to uncover the whole problem & the whole horrible ugly picture underneath, that it was just scratching the surface! I think that little compromise on that particular issue & that characteristic of hers has helped to defeat her ministry.
19. She's got to be as sickened of lesbianism as I am of sodomy, because I can see now that THIS form of lesbianism is absolutely Satanic! It's not of God, not of the Lord, not of normal mere affectionate love. It's absolutely a demonic lustful fiendish craving of flesh! That Book of Jude just pins it right down & she's got to be faced with it! (Maria: Well, she'll probably say, for example, she really does love me & love...I mean it's not COMPLETELY without any love or affection. The demonic part is there but there is some good mixed in!) It's the intemperance, immoderation! The Devil can take even normal things & make you go to excess. Any kind of overdoing or even too much sex or overeating or over-drinking, all those things are not right. They're all intemperance & immoderation. (Maria: Yes.)
20. But it starts out with that sort of thing, see? In her case it carried over to the absolute total horrible extreme where it just took her over completely & got totally out of control, to where it controlled her & she was controlled by those lustful Satanic desires! (Maria: And probably by spirits that she had opened the door for through all this demonic reading & demonic study!) Through her own evil lusts along with reading all this kind of junk‚ shit that condoned it & encouraged it & even led her into worse, the horrors & doctrines of devils! Those guys who wrote that stuff were all fiends!
21. She's a brand snatched from the burning‚ hating even the garment spotted by the flesh‚ & you've got to try to help save her!—Zech.3:2; Jude 23. Look at what a powerful force she's already been for the Lord, so look how powerfully the Devil has attacked her with this thing to try to defeat her! (Maria: She's a natural leader, she always has been from the time she was young.) What a powerhouse she could be for the Lord if she's delivered! She's already been a real power for the Lord all these years WITH that handicap, a real handicap! Look what she could be WITHOUT it!
22. I believe that's why the Lord brought her here, to get her delivered from this handicap! It's a real handicap, she's a cripple & it's crippled her ministry! (Maria: It's caused her to think she's so strong in the flesh, you know. If she's willing to let go of that & just be like anybody else, just be weak & normal, then look how the Lord can shine through her & work through her!) The Lord's trying to show her that, He's really trying to show it to her right now. (Maria: She can just look at me & see, if she admires me, look at me & see how weak & nothing I am & how little I know & what little I can do, & see how the Lord can work, you know?) It's just the Lord!
23. When you're weak then you're strong‚ for His strength is made perfect in your weakness!—2Cor.12:9. Her very strength in the flesh has been a handicap to her spirit & her spiritual strength. (Maria: That's right. She always prided herself on her physical strength.) I guess that's why the Lord let me grow up such a physical weakling in many ways, although apparently I was stronger than I realised. The Lord gave me a good, sound body, & even though I looked skinny & weak, in some ways I really wasn't, at least not in the strength of the Lord.
24. I feel relieved already as I think we're going to get the victory, now that we've got the problem pinned down & the Lord has spoken & exposed it. But now you've got to face her with it & she's got to acknowledge it & WANT to be delivered & FIGHT that thing from here on out & confess it to the World & all her former associates & cronies & everyone else, that she's a changed person & has become the LORD'S WOMAN instead of the DEVIL'S MAN!—And the Enemy has no longer any foothold in her!
25. Lord help us & deliver us in Jesus' name! Please deliver poor Keda from this horrible affliction! It's an affliction! She's got to look on it as a disease or affliction, a real curse, a disability, a handicap! She's a cripple & her work & life & ministry are being crippled by it!—And we're being hindered by it. Even right now, we've got all our important work & your important work, & yet we're here spending hours & hours dealing with the subject! But apparently the Lord figures it's worth it‚ because if He can pull her through—& I'm sure He can—she can be a real powerhouse for the Lord & much much more useful & powerful than ever before! TTL!
26. I think that's encouraging now that we've gotten to the root of the problem. We couldn't very well solve it without knowing what it was. I mean, you can't heal the disease unless you diagnose it. I think this is going to really do it, to really call a spade a spade‚ as black as it is, & for her to have to face it. We've got to face our mistake of tolerating it for years. We've got to come out & confess openly it is of the Devil, there's nothing good about it.
27. I wouldn't be surprised if that whole women's lib movement is led by a bunch of lesbians‚ mannish masculine women who want to be recognised as men! The Devil really likes to be recognised & have his work glorified! She's just got to recognise that the whole thing is of the Devil & not of the Lord & she cannot tolerate it! She's got to fight it & desperately want to be delivered completely, just completely! No more! (Maria: Here's a Scripture that came to mind:
28. ("For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings‚ & abominable idolatries: Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you: Who shall give account to Him that is ready to judge the quick & the dead."—1Pet.4:2-5.) Now, there's the passage!
29. (Maria: Oh, here's another Chapter very similar to Jude! Look, the whole thing is almost a verbatim quote, it's 2nd Peter Chapter 2‚ "But chiefly them that walk after the flesh & the lust of uncleanness & despise government. Presumptuous are they, self-willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.") How about that! (Maria: "Whereas Angels‚ which are greater in power & might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. But these, as natural brute beasts‚ made to be taken & destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not. And shall utterly perish in their own corruption; & shall receive the reward of unrighteousness‚ as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are & blemishes."—2Pet.2:10-13.
30. ("Spots they are & blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; having eyes full of adultery, & that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: Which have forsaken the right way, & are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor..."
31. ("...Who loved the wages of unrighteousness; but was rebuked for his iniquity: The dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. These are wells without water‚ clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: For of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the World through the knowledge of the Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, & overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning." And then it goes on, "For it had been better for them not to have known the way," etc.—2Pet.2:15-21. I got that verse for her, "Stand fast in the liberty wherewith Christ has set you free & be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage."—Gal.5:1.)
32. It's amazing those two passages are so similar! (Maria: How about that! And even the first part that I didn't read you, the first part of this Chapter is like Jude, too. "And turning the cities of Sodom & Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly."—2Pet.2:6.)
33. At least now we know, & the Lord answered her problem, even if it did cost us part of a night's sleep! Rooting out can be a painful job, it's not a very easy job. Sometimes it tears some of the earth with it, like tearing out part of the flesh in which it grows. If you've ever rooted up a plant you know what I mean—it's like a plant‚ pulling it out by the roots!
(ML #1750:23-24, GN Book 20.)
23. It's been a real revelation to us because we never understood this before. God is not against sex, He's not against love & affection between the sexes or even between two women; love & affection & even sex.—But it's a horrible perverted spirit where men want to be women & women want to be men! Horrible! That's the sodomy of it, the perversion of it, this masculinity‚ this mannishness & this trying to be dominant over women, that sort of thing, & then even more sickening on the male side, the men who want to be pansies, fairies‚ so-called gay & be effeminate!
24. THE SCRIPTURE'S VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT SODOMY! It wasn't specific about this other, but boy, we sure found out! I never really realised before that... I always thought the Book of Jude was the most horrible book in the whole New Testament‚ & we found out 2Peter 2 is the same thing‚ & that's what the Lord used to condemn it! It's perversion! We're not talking about normal natural sweet love & affection & even sex between any of you. But we're talking about this perverted spirit where men want to be women & women want to be men & even dress like'm & all the rest! It's sickening to God, sickening, it's a perversion, it's a curse, it's sodomy! So pray against it! PTL! And don't go to the opposite extreme like the churches where‚ "I guess all sex is evil," blah, blah! I mean, we've got to be able to know the limitations. But see here, the Devil gets ahold of something & he carries it to the extreme.
(ML #3309:196-215‚ GN 910.)
I hear there are a lot of threesome dates and woman-with-woman sex happening in WS. I've heard that the women in WS are lesbians, and that Mama is a lesbian!
196. (Peter:) I want to start by asking you a question. What business is it of yours what the sexual preferences of others are, if they're within the Charter guidelines? Do you like it when people talk about‚ or gossip about, or even ask about your sex life or sexual preferences? It amazes me that people who would be horrified if they found out others were talking about their sex lives, so freely talk about the sex lives of others.
197. Secondly, I want to point out that we have the Charter, which defines and deals with lesbianism‚ which is female homosexuality. Let's take a look at what it says
Q. Female homosexual relationships are not permitted.
You will notice that this is worded differently from the male homosexual rule in the Offenses Warranting Excommunication section. The Bible specifically prohibits male-with-male sexual activity, but there are no passages forbidding such activity between women. This rule is meant to reflect that difference, as we do not entirely prohibit all female-with-female sexual activity, unlike the rule regarding males.
As Dad said, it's fairly natural for some females to be affectionate and loving towards each other. It would therefore be acceptable for two sisters to hold hands or be arm in arm, or have their arms around each other, kiss‚ caress or hug each other closely, even sexually. Whereas any sexual overtures between two men is prohibited. Of course, such female-with-female cuddling would need to be conducted in the non–public areas of the Home, just as any other sexual affection would.
Although such affection between women would be permitted, an actual lesbian relationship, in which the two partners were deeply involved to the exclusion of others, is prohibited. The definition of homosexual is, "Relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex." And as Dad has said, it is not natural for women to only desire sex with other women; such female homosexual relationships would not be considered as natural, and as such are not permitted.
Although many may consider affection between women distasteful, we must remember that love is what should guide us. We must be understanding of the needs of others, so if two women have the need for affection between themselves, since it is not Biblically forbidden‚ we should be loving and mature enough to understand.
Any such female–with-female activity must be with mutual consent, and no one should be coerced or feel pressured into participating. This is not a license for those who feel the need for such affection to try to actively search for those who will participate. Only if there is a mutual desire and agreement between two women may they be affectionate with one another.
*When a girl has never had any normal desire for a man, I begin to wonder if it's a spiritual thing. It is certainly not normal or natural as God intended‚ therefore such lesbianism is a perversion (ML #292:5).
*But two [women] can be very close friends without having to necessarily express it that way, although why not? (ML #292:61).
*Where it is real love and affection of any two people for each other, that's a different story. But this carnal lust of the flesh, ... totally only for women, that's not of the Lord (ML #1748:17).
(From "Sex and Affection Rules," pp. 306-307 of the Charter.)
198. In FSM 287, "Charter Questions and Answers" Part Two, the following question and answer is given:
Lesbian Relationships
Q–47: The Charter only makes one reference to woman-with-woman sex. The Sex and Affection Rules, L, pg.139‚ says "female homosexual relationships are not permitted." Does this also apply to occasional dates between two women so inclined, or to women who are in a threesome marriage?
A: Under the Charter, outright lesbian relationships are banned. However, the same is not true of two girls cuddling, or a woman having a threesome date with a man and another woman, etc., if they so desire. Therefore, the clause of the Charter cited above was deliberately worded to only prohibit lesbian relationships.
199. As is explained above, a lesbian is a woman who only or primarily wants to have sex with other women, or who prefers sex and relationships with women to sex and relationships with men. If WS had women who were lesbians, then we would be breaking the Charter. The fact is that none of our women in WS are lesbians. And believe me, I have it on good authority that Mama is not a lesbian, ha!
200. In WS, just as in any Home, people's sex lives are their own business as long as they don't break any of the Charter rules. What WS people do in their bedrooms is up to them; we don't get involved unless it causes some friction within the Home, such as in regards to jealousy, etc.
201. Sexual freedom is part of our religion‚ and therefore some of the women in WS, both FGA and SGA, enjoy threesome dates occasionally (involving two women and one man). Whether there is interaction between the women is up to them. They are free to have such contact, just as any Family person is‚ without interference from Mama or me.
202. The fact that some people in WS have threesome dates once in a while does not mean that WS is promoting them as the new thing; it simply shows that Family members are free to engage in whatever sexual activity they choose, as long as it doesn't contravene the Charter. It's a private matter and it takes place in the privacy of people's bedrooms, not in public places. From what I have heard, threesome dates are not unique to WS; they occur on the field as well.
203. Chandra (20): I'm a young woman in WS. I'm not lesbian, and I don't know any who are. The interactions and closeness we share within WS naturally draws everyone closer together, and people are affectionate with one another, but it's not like sex is the haunting presence of WS.
204. Sex is not a foreign concept. Living the Law of Love is something we do practice, and with the correct attitude it does give you a certain amount of freedom. But it has to be done in the right spirit. Whatever is planned or organized is prayed about, and the Lord's thoughts on the ideas are a must.
205. Though we may be a little freer than the average Family Home I'm familiar with, it doesn't make WS a sex haven or orgy site. Living and working closely together brings a certain bond of love between all‚ but we are definitely not advocating sole women-with-women, or an emphasis on women together. But we are also not ashamed to take part in the freedoms that are ours under the Law of Love.
206. Piper (21): Lesbian women, from my interpretation, are women that are same–sex oriented and who seek to exclude males from relationships and sexual interaction. I have never felt as loved by so many women as I am now. Though a single, I have had the privilege of knowing intimately a number of women here, and have found it a fact that they are very inclined towards the beauty of the male body and intellect, and they make it very known through their day-to-day interactions.
207. I work with women in my office who care for me. I dance with people on dance nights who are as loving to me as a wife might be‚ and I regularly have dates with girls who take it as a pleasure to show the Lord's love in that form. I have experienced threesome dates too and can testify that it is a pleasurable experience. I don't have to put in here that threesomes are not against the Charter, and from a personal viewpoint, when the Lord is being loved intimately at the same time‚ there is nothing more fulfilling.
208. Kayla (25): About threesomes, hmmmm. Are our sex lives any of your business, as long as we're staying within the Charter guidelines? I rather think not. However, to satiate your curiosity just a little‚ I'll talk about me. How's that? Let me draw a deep breathÂ…
209. I HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THREESOMES!
210. Pant, pant, pant. There, I said it. Actually, I'm laughing. It's not a big deal at all, when done in the right spirit and when the Lord is included. The few I've had were fun!—Natural, normal (I see that grin of disbelief on your face), great—and totally within the Charter. Like having a mini-party, really. They lack the intensity of one-on-one dates—you have something to drink, play some games maybe, then Â… you want details? Well, perhaps not—I'm sure they won't get published, ha!
211. And by the way, in case you're wondering about this, every woman I know in WS—myself included—who has participated in threesomes has frequent and fantastic one-on–one sex with the great, masculine, sexy men we are blessed to live with. We can't get enough of 'em!
212. Louise (24): When I first came here, the thought of doing anything with another woman totally fritzed me! Reading the brief mention from Mama of affection between women in a GN shortly before I came to WS nearly made me change my mind about coming, ha!
213. I haven't encountered any lesbians since coming here, but I have discovered, along with some of my fellow SGA females, that threesome dates with another girl and a guy can be very sexy and a lot of fun. Most guys like it, so I figured it was worth a try. At first I did it almost as a dare to myself, just to see if I could and would do it—not just to do something bizarre, but because I felt that it would help me loosen up and be freer in the spirit in general. And I do believe it had that effect. After a few times it grew on me, and now feels quite normal and natural. It's not that I'm doing it all the time‚ but I have paired up for threesome dates with a few of my closer female friends, and it's been very liberating, uniting, and, well, great! Of course, men are still my favorite! But I think being free and open–minded is a good thing when it comes to sex.
214. Caitlyn (20): Though threesome dates may happen as a fun occasional alternative, they aren't the norm, and I know that they are for sure prayed about beforehand, and have gotten the Lord's approval. Even so, what's the big deal? I mean, there's nothing wrong with threesome dates if they're done in the right spirit, and it's your desire. Besides‚ I know they don't just take place in WS! (Gasp!) Personally, I feel like "never have, never will" about threesome dates, but if others would, I say‚ "Hey‚ whatever floats your boat! Go for it."
215. Before coming to WS, I was told by a number of people that a lot of WS women are lesbians, and that I needed to "watch out‚" etc., but so far I haven't come across any, ha! Seriously though‚ we all know that the Charter prohibits lesbian relationships, so no, there are no women in WS who are lesbians! I don't know, maybe some girls in WS feel comfortable having some sexual interaction with other girls occasionally and do, but it's a private matter and up to the individual, and really isn't any of our business. So really, why should we care?
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