GET THE VICTORY OR GET OUT!      DFO 1090         10/11/81

         1. WITH SOME OF THESE PROBLEM CASES YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC THING, PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. You've got to have united prayer for some of these things. It really works! Then you put the Lord on the spot & it's a testimony to everyone. I think that's why the Lord demands it, like the laying on of hands & the anointing with oil: The whole Family is involved & everyone wants to know afterwards, "Did God do it?"--They're all going to be looking for results.
         2. THE LORD LOVES UNITED PRAYER! It's a testimony!--It's a witness when you show you have faith in prayer & exercise that faith by having everybody get together & pray. And then it really puts the person, the problem case, on the spot to deliver the goods or be a failure, because very often it's up to their will.
         3. (MARIA: AND IT GETS EVERYONE REALLY DESPERATE WITH THE LORD TOO!) Yes, they all know they've either got to exercise faith & really believe God & get results, or else! Because it puts you on the spot when you publicly pray for people like that.--Every one of you! It also puts God on the spot so that He has got to honour your faith & your prayers!--And you know He won't fail!
         4. THE LORD SAYS THAT IF YOU GO TO THE INDIVIDUAL PERSONALLY & HE WON'T CHANGE, then take two or three witnesses, like leadership, to deal with him. And if he still won't change, then you've got to bring him before all. It's God's time-honoured, Scriptural, New Testament law! You have to take it before the whole congregation & reprove him & pray for him or get him healed or whatever it is, before the whole congregation! The Scripture says, "And if he will not hear them, then let him be cast out as an heathen & an heretic." (Mt.18:15-17; Tit.3:10)
         5. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT! Are they afraid to embarrass the person?--Afraid to offend him? Well, when they get to that point where nothing else has worked & all else has failed, what difference does it make if they embarrass or offend him?-They've got to do it!
         6. THE DEVIL REALLY TRIES TO SCARE PEOPLE OUT OF TAKING A DEFINITE STEP OF FAITH & putting God & themselves on the spot. But God likes it! And you get results one way or the other: When you expose them before the whole Family, you get rid of the problem one way or the other!--Either they get delivered, or you get delivered of them!
         7. IT'S A VERY TRYING ORDEAL, IN A WAY, BOTH FOR LEADERSHIP & CONGREGATION--& THE PROBLEM CASE. But it's necessary. In a sense it is a trial, a trial of faith, & it takes the combined faith of the leadership, the congregation & the problem case. But if they will all really exercise that faith, obey God's Word, take it before the congregation, have desperate prayer about it there & then & expose the individual, insisting that he's got to get the victory or else--if he really wants it, you know God won't fail! God'll give it! PTL?
         8. THEN HE KNOWS IT'S A SERIOUS THING! He knows he's on the spot & that's the last stop before he's out! And he's either got to get the victory or get out!--One or the other! They need to have a day of fasting & prayer over the case! Let everybody know it's serious & really pray & bring'm before the congregation, have public prayer! And if there is complete unity with all three factors: The problem case, the congregation & the Lord, then you'll get results!
         9. AND IF THAT DOESN'T DO IT, YOU KNOW GOD HASN'T FAILED!--And the congregation's obeyed, so they haven't failed!--So who's supposed to be thrown out? It's the subject's fault! It's been brought out openly, everybody knows who's to blame, & everybody is then going to agree that the individual needs to get kicked out, he's gotta go! There's no wondering or questions because it is public knowledge!
         10. HE EITHER GETS THE VICTORY OR GETS OUT, PERIOD! I don't like to keep problem cases! (Maria: Maybe they think he's indispensable.) The Devil loves that!--Nobody's indispensable!--Especially problem cases!
         11. AND OF COURSE, THE PROBLEM CASE SELDOM EVER WANTS TO BE PUT ON THE SPOT & PUBLICLY EXPOSED & be made a public problem case, because he knows then he's got to get the victory or get out, & he doesn't want to get out! No problem child wants to get out!
         12. BRING'M BEFORE THE LORD & THE WHOLE CONGREGATION & TELL'M, "YOU & WE ARE GOING TO PRAY! We know God won't fail, & we're obeying God so we're not failing, now what are you going to do? Are you going to get the victory, or get out? This is your last chance! Now either you are going to get the victory this time, or get out! Get it or get out!"--And that's that!


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